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  • #31
    doggie
    Banned
    • Apr 2017
    • 719

    If you ever use a 10mm for self defense, say goodbye to your eardrums forever. Permanent big time hearing damage.

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    • #32
      Title1guy
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2015
      • 1345

      Had a G20sf. Sold it and bought a G29.....nonSF since it had night sights. Added the 21lb stainless rod and spring and a KKM 4.5 inch black nitride barrel. Really fun to shoot and can be CCWd if I decide to replace one of the others on my permit. Initially wasn't a Glock fan either; but I now have the G29, G43, G19, and just drossed a G26 OD green. Something about their Teutonic utilitarianism appeals to me.

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      • #33
        LowThudd
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 3608

        Originally posted by EMR
        Your comment about the .45+p got me thinking, why don't they call the full power 10mm stuff "10mm+p"?

        And since you're the umpteenth person to say the range loads are mild, I really want to find some of this hot stuff to shoot!
        The 10mm was designed from the get go as a "Light Magnum" cartridge. The first ammo that came out was the same pressure of the underwood ammo. When Colt Deltas started cracking frames, and the FBI decided not to use the 10mm(as they had planned) due to agents complaints about recoil from the S&Ws, manufactures started to detune 10mm factory loads. And also the .40 S&W was created for an intermediate round, which the FBI did use for a while.

        So actually, the typical target/practice even defensive ammo is more like comparing .44 Mag "Combat Loads", which are quite a bit less powerful than .44 Mag hunting loads.

        It isn't so much that the Underwood et al loads are +P, but that the average loads have been reduced over the years to just slightly more velocity than .40 S&W.

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        • #34
          Saym14
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2009
          • 7892

          10 mm FTW

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          • #35
            EMR
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 1023

            Originally posted by LowThudd
            The 10mm was designed from the get go as a "Light Magnum" cartridge.......


            Very informative. Thank you!

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            • #36
              dozer wright
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 2764

              Originally posted by doggie
              If you ever use a 10mm for self defense, say goodbye to your eardrums forever. Permanent big time hearing damage.
              Why do people say things of this nature any firearm will give some damage when shot in doors . Dosnt matter what it is . Some sort of ear protection should he part of your home defense package .
              I prefer electronic ear muffs . One they give you super hearing and two they protect if shots fired .
              Back on topic . I love my Glock 20 sf .
              Last edited by dozer wright; 08-02-2017, 6:09 AM.

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              • #37
                LkPillsburyDude
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 921

                I love my g20sf. I need to reload some more XTPs for it. Unfortunately I shoot my brothers and cousins G29 and G29sf just about as good as my g20 and I like the smaller package and concealment while fishing etc better. Oh well both great guns.

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                • #38
                  Turbinator
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                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 11930

                  Originally posted by dozer wright
                  Why do people say things of this nature any firearm will give some damage when shot in doors . Dosnt matter what it is . Some sort of ear protection should he part of your home defense package .
                  I prefer electronic ear muffs . One they give you super hearing and two they protect if shots fired .
                  True enough, even .22lr can and will cause hearing damage, eh?

                  Turby

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                  • #39
                    BigPimping
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 21392

                    Superior product and Superior performance. Glock is winning the shooting world over one person at a time. People are realizing that simple, effective, and reliable is all they will ever need.
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                    • #40
                      EMR
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1023

                      Glock 20sf: Initial Impressions

                      Originally posted by BigPimping
                      Superior product and Superior performance. Glock is winning the shooting world over one person at a time. People are realizing that simple, effective, and reliable is all they will ever need.


                      I was wondering when you'd chime in BP [emoji38]

                      I don't know if it's "all I'll ever need". It fills a niche. I still prefer my Sigs, 1911's, revolvers etc for various other reasons. Which btw are all simple, effective and reliable [emoji6]
                      Last edited by EMR; 08-02-2017, 11:11 AM.

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                      • #41
                        teflondog
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 4010

                        Originally posted by doggie
                        If you ever use a 10mm for self defense, say goodbye to your eardrums forever. Permanent big time hearing damage.
                        The same can be said about 00 buckshot.

                        I'd rather be deaf than dead.
                        Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
                        Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

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                        • #42
                          EMR
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1023

                          Originally posted by teflondog
                          The same can be said about 00 buckshot.

                          I'd rather be deaf than dead.


                          This is hard to argue!

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                          • #43
                            Johneracer
                            Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 293

                            Underwood heavy 10mm with heavier spring turned hat gun into perfect camping/backpacking weapon. For regular shooting at the range 9mm is perfect. If you own a 10mm I honestly don't see a point blasting it at the range for fun. It's expensive. By all means train with it but a 10mm for backwoods should be loaded with heavy 10mm ammo in my opinion

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                            • #44
                              dozer wright
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2764

                              Originally posted by Johneracer
                              Underwood heavy 10mm with heavier spring turned hat gun into perfect camping/backpacking weapon. For regular shooting at the range 9mm is perfect. If you own a 10mm I honestly don't see a point blasting it at the range for fun. It's expensive. By all means train with it but a 10mm for backwoods should be loaded with heavy 10mm ammo in my opinion
                              I quit with the heavy rounds for woods / boat duty . Underwood Extreme Penetrators is where it's at . Watch the youtube videos on it . Hardcast is out dated with these new rounds .
                              Last edited by dozer wright; 08-02-2017, 3:16 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Junkie
                                Veteran Member
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 4848

                                Originally posted by dozer wright
                                Why do people say things of this nature any firearm will give some damage when shot in doors . Dosnt matter what it is . Some sort of ear protection should he part of your home defense package .
                                I prefer electronic ear muffs . One they give you super hearing and two they protect if shots fired .
                                Back on topic . I love my Glock 20 sf .
                                I agree, and would be surprised if 10mm was as bad as 5.56
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