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  • Rob Roy
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1261

    .45 platforms

    Except 1911, what other handguns were built around .45 platform?
  • #2
    oghl888
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 612

    45 is a fairly low pressure round. Any major brand's 45 will be OK. What ar eyou looking for that the 1911 does not provide?

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    • #3
      Rob Roy
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1261

      Discussing handguns in one of the threads I heard this concept and it just got me wondering.

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      • #4
        JJ1911
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 597

        The .45 ACP stands for .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. The round itself was designed for the 1911. I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, which could penetrate body armor at the time. I could be completely wrong, as this is just what I recall from memory.

        Edit: This may not have been what you were asking about, apologies its late and I'm still at work.
        The "best" handgun caliber debate rages on, meanwhile I just keep buying low recoil 00 buck.

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        • #5
          CalNRA
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2006
          • 8686

          dunno if any pistols were built around the 45acp round after the 1911 but yeah, pretty much all major groups have variations in 45 with success. The CZs, GLocks, and the later XDs come to mind

          if you want heavy, single action only: 1911

          if you want light, SAO: many light weight 1911 frames exist.

          if you want heady-ish, DA/SA: CZ or SW.

          if you want light and DAO: Glock.

          if you want light and DAO, but too cool for Glocks, XDs.

          if you want heavy and DAO for some reason, hang a 5-lb weight from your Glock.
          Last edited by CalNRA; 02-28-2009, 11:24 PM.
          Originally posted by cvigue
          This is not rocket surgery.

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          • #6
            JJ1911
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 597

            Originally posted by CalNRA
            dunno if any pistols were built around the 45acp round after the 1911 but yeah, pretty much all major groups have variations in 45 with success. The CZs, GLocks, and the later XDs come to mind

            if you want heavy, single action only: 1911

            if you want light, SAO: many light weight 1911 frames exist.

            if you want heady-ish, DA/SA: CZ or SW.

            if you want light and DAO: Glock.

            if you want light and DAO, but too cool for Glocks, XDs.

            if you want heavy and DAO for some reason, hang a 5-lb weight from your Glock.

            Add Sig to that list, they make a great .45, as well as H&K.
            The "best" handgun caliber debate rages on, meanwhile I just keep buying low recoil 00 buck.

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            • #7
              Rob Roy
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 1261

              I like the idea of hanging weight... LOL

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              • #8
                Gryff
                CGSSA Coordinator
                • May 2006
                • 12681

                Springfield XD45. Originally designed for 9mm, the gun was re-designed to allow high capacity of .45acp.
                My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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                • #9
                  BigRich
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 788

                  "I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, "

                  The 1911 started life as a 45 ACP.
                  No one arrives in Hell surprised. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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                  • #10
                    Sam
                    Calguns Addict
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5205

                    Originally posted by JJ1911
                    The .45 ACP stands for .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. The round itself was designed for the 1911. I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, which could penetrate body armor at the time. I could be completely wrong, as this is just what I recall from memory.

                    Edit: This may not have been what you were asking about, apologies its late and I'm still at work.
                    I thought the 1911 was designed for the .45 acp and thus the first and original cartridge the gun was used with. I thought the round was a requirement given by the Army for their next pistol and I believe the .38 super was introduced in the 20s.

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                    • #11
                      JJ1911
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 597

                      you're right, like i said its been a long day haha. the 1911 was designed to use the .45. The earlier Colt designs BEFORE the 1911 used .38 ACP, ( the 1900).
                      The "best" handgun caliber debate rages on, meanwhile I just keep buying low recoil 00 buck.

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                      • #12
                        comandante costello
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 523

                        Interestingly enough, I can't think of many guns off the top of my head that were originally designed around .45 ACP besides the 1911.

                        Many great .45s, like the HK USP or Sig 220 were originally, or at least initially, designed for other calibers. Even something new, chambered only in .45, let's say for instance the HK45, you could make the argument that it's just an evolved USP, which was originally designed for .40 S&W. An obvious answer just came to me as I was typing that however, the HK Mk.23 was designed around .45 ACP.

                        Maybe the CZ-97? Really just an upscaled CZ-75 though.

                        Of course that may be all be intentional on the part of the manufactures, as has been mentioned, .45 ACP is much lower pressure than 9mm or .40S&W, perhaps it's easier to design guns around those rounds, then just upscale them a bit for .45. The guns can handle it.

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                        • #13
                          tankerman
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 24240

                          1917 Revolver was designed to use 45acp with half moon clips.

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                          • #14
                            B Strong
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 6367

                            Originally posted by JJ1911
                            The .45 ACP stands for .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. The round itself was designed for the 1911. I believe prior to .45 being used, the 1911 was in .38 super, which could penetrate body armor at the time. I could be completely wrong, as this is just what I recall from memory.

                            Edit: This may not have been what you were asking about, apologies its late and I'm still at work.
                            The .38 ACP isn't the .38 Super, that round didn't come along until 1929.
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                            • #15
                              JJ1911
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 597

                              yeah I mixed the two up in my head, corrected myself above though!
                              The "best" handgun caliber debate rages on, meanwhile I just keep buying low recoil 00 buck.

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