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  • rlewpolar
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 1447

    Glock 19 vs M&P Shield recoil

    I own and love both and shoot them both decently. The thing is though, the Shield is so much more snappier in 9mm. In fact, it almost feels like my Sig P220 shooting .45s.

    I don't get it. Granted the Glock 19 is larger but not by that much. The Glock 19 feels like more like a .22 to me while the Shield is more like a .45.

    Anyone speculate why this would be?

    Is it something in Glock's polymer? Or the way the Shield is constructed? Or the single vs double stack grip size? I have a hard time believing the difference is just due to size.

    For those that own the G26 and Shield, do you notice a a big difference? This might be a good comparison to rule out the size difference.




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    tanakasan
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1638

    Low bore axis on the 19?

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    • #3
      JS41989
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2015
      • 1157

      G19 is heavier, longer barrel, double stack vs single stack width. Overall its just better built to handle recoil shooting the same caliber. Not as concealable, which is why the shield is a ccw favorite.

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      • #4
        bigbearbear
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2011
        • 5378

        From my experience in the difference between a Office and Government sized 1911, it is mainly in the recoil spring.

        The Shield, being shorter in its slide, will have a very stiff spring to prevent the gun from beating up itself. This will translate into a sharp recoil impulse. The Glock 19 is longer and its spring will have more room to work with.

        Sort of like the difference between cars that are lowered and cars with higher group clearance. The lowered car will need a stiff shock absorber and that translate into a harsher ride.

        I'm no expert in this however.

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        • #5
          Powder_Keg
          Senior Member
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2013
          • 2203

          Originally posted by bigbearbear
          From my experience in the difference between a Office and Government sized 1911, it is mainly in the recoil spring.

          The Shield, being shorter in its slide, will have a very stiff spring to prevent the gun from beating up itself. This will translate into a sharp recoil impulse. The Glock 19 is longer and its spring will have more room to work with.

          Sort of like the difference between cars that are lowered and cars with higher group clearance. The lowered car will need a stiff shock absorber and that translate into a harsher ride.

          I'm no expert in this however.
          This ^^^

          The shorter recoil spring maks a huge difference.

          The grip on the shield is thinner and shorter too, compared to the G19. I think that contributes to the snappiness.

          I did notice that after 500 rounds thru my Shield the gun handled better.

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          • #6
            Strykeback
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 1574

            The thinness of the grip might have much to play with it as well. Granted I haven't shot the shield but plan to get one next....the 9mm Glocks have zero recoil for me, whether its the 17 or the 26. They feel the same and shoot great. But then someone let me try the single stack 43 and I hated it. It was snappy and the way the single stack fit in my hand, it would want to slide or twist and I'd have to keep adjusting my grip. I carry a g30sf so I love something with some punch but grip plays a huge part along with the spring as others have mentioned

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            • #7
              PoorRichRichard
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 3134

              OP- it's because of your girly little hands.
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              • #8
                teflondog
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 4010

                It's simple physics. Glocks have less perceived recoil than the Shield because of the grip size. The wide back strap distributes the force over a larger area. The thinner back strap of the Shield concentrates the force in a more focused area. If I pushed you with an open palm, it would hurt less than if I poked you with my finger with the same applied force.

                Also, the additional mass of the Glock helps absorb some of the recoil. That's why a lot of shotgun owners will fill their stock to make it heavier.

                Originally posted by rlewpolar
                Is it something in Glock's polymer? Or the way the Shield is constructed? Or the single vs double stack grip size? I have a hard time believing the difference is just due to size.
                If you shoot a Glock 26 and then a Glock 34, you should notice a significant difference due to the size. The same if you compare the Shield to the full size M&P 9.
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                • #9
                  Che762x39
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4538

                  Originally posted by rlewpolar
                  I own and love both and shoot them both decently. The thing is though, the Shield is so much more snappier in 9mm. In fact, it almost feels like my Sig P220 shooting .45s.

                  I don't get it. Granted the Glock 19 is larger but not by that much. The Glock 19 feels like more like a .22 to me while the Shield is more like a .45.

                  Anyone speculate why this would be?

                  Is it something in Glock's polymer? Or the way the Shield is constructed? Or the single vs double stack grip size? I have a hard time believing the difference is just due to size.

                  For those that own the G26 and Shield, do you notice a a big difference? This might be a good comparison to rule out the size difference.
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                  • #10
                    motoman96
                    Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 482

                    You think the 9mm shield has a recoil, my .45 shield has some recoil to it!!
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                    • #11
                      rlewpolar
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 1447

                      Originally posted by PoorRichRichard
                      OP- it's because of your girly little hands.


                      Haha, you might be right. We were joking that I have the same hands as this mook, Otzi. The one that was found frozen in the Tyrol region of Austria. If Otzi carried, he'd carry a Glock.




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                      • #12
                        nitroxdiver
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6979

                        ^ That's hilarious!


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                        • #13
                          Wordupmybrotha
                          From anotha motha
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 6965

                          Shield 3 inch barrel.
                          G19 4 inch barrel.

                          Shorter barrel means more unburned gun powder leaves the barrel and then ignites in front of the muzzle, causing muzzle flip, which results in greater perceived recoil, in addition to what other posters said about grip size, slide weight, recoil spring, etc.

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                          • #14
                            etwinam
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 3223

                            Shield is almost identical to the g43...

                            Better question is Why are you comparing a single stack subcompact to a double stacked compact ?
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                            • #15
                              rlewpolar
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 1447

                              Glock 19 vs M&P Shield recoil

                              Originally posted by etwinam
                              Shield is almost identical to the g43...

                              Better question is Why are you comparing a single stack subcompact to a double stacked compact ?


                              No real reason. Shooting them back to back really brought the recoil differences to the fore though. Both are polymer, both are the same caliber, both are "somewhat" similar in size, especially when carrying the Shield with 8 round mags.

                              If a new shooter was asking for a first gun recommendation, I'd have to recommend the G19 over the Shield just for the recoil alone. To me, it feels like the Shield subjectively has at least twice the recoil as the G19.

                              Dont get me wrong, I love the Shield, so much so that I bought 2 of them [emoji12]


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