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  • Charliecgdn
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 92

    Rowland host guns

  • #2
    TapTapToad
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 63

    Let us know what you find out. I have a USP Expert .45 and I love it. I would maybe consider a USP conversion to the Rowland if I move to big bear country. I love the Expert, but would probably buy a standard USP to convert to Rowland since I would be adding a new barrel, spring and a compensator anyway.
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    • #3
      MurdaJ
      Member
      • Aug 2015
      • 401

      Id do whatever clark customs recommends
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      • #4
        JTROKS
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2007
        • 13093

        Are you planning to reload your Rowland ammo or will you be shooting factory loads? Any of the handguns you mentioned are strong enough to handle the 460 Rowland provided a proper conversion is done. Although I can't seem to find a conversion kit for the USP. It seems they have them for the Springfield XD, which you're not considering.

        If I was dead set on a 460 Rowland I would pick a 1911 with a fully supported chamber. When you're dealing with 40K psi handgun round the weakest part would be the unsupported area of the case's web. The 1911 is proven in handling the 460 conversion. There are lots of aftermarket parts. If I was to build a 460Rowland I'd make sure it will feed smoothly to prevent bullet setback.
        Last edited by JTROKS; 07-22-2017, 5:03 AM.
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        • #5
          bmk20398
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 1047

          460 Rowland, interesting
          as far as I read, they recommend Black Steel 1911
          and maybe POI will change, so Target model should be better
          Kimber Custom Target II .45ACP or SIG Target model?

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          • #6
            WMG
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2016
            • 1159

            I have seen the 460 on a Springer XD. I like the XD line "most of it" But not sure that's where I'd go
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            • #7
              Carcassonne
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 4897

              Don't use the HK Expert. Go with the 1911.



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              Last edited by Carcassonne; 07-22-2017, 11:03 AM.
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              • #8
                Charliecgdn
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 92

                I looked on the LoneWolf website and they only have Glock and S&W Shield barrels. Closed on Sat and Sun so I couldn't call. I'll keep looking and let you know if I find any H&K shops that do Rowland conversions.

                Here is a thread on HKPro with some info:
                Not sure if anyone else has done this, but I converted my USP Tactical 45 to fire .460 Rowland cartridges for use as a woods defense gun up here in Alaska. The conversion was straight forward and simple. I obtained an additional threaded barrel- OEM factory barrel - and had Wild West Guns of...

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                • #9
                  Carcassonne
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4897

                  Originally posted by Charliecgdn

                  Here is a thread on HKPro with some info:
                  http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgu...onversion.html
                  Be sure to ask your doctor if depression, rectal bleeding, and suicide are right for you.

                  In the United States a person's expertise on a subject is inversely proportional to their knowledge of the subject: The less they know about something, the more they become an expert on it.

                  I am being held hostage in a giant insane asylum called Earth.

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                  • #10
                    Charliecgdn
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 92

                    JTROKS; both factory ammo and reloading. 45 acp, 45 super, 460.

                    MURDAJ: I'm leaning that way (1911). I'm just wondering if that's their opinion because the 1911 is the best choice, or because they are a 1911 house and only make a conversion for the 1911.

                    BMK20398, is correct, the Clark general recommendation is a carbon steel 1911.

                    WMG: I didn't see the xD on the roster when I 1st started researching, so I left it out. Anyway, I'd go HK if I went polymer. I just like them. I like 1911 the best. The only reason I'm not jumping on one is that I'm considering that my wife might have to use the gun if I'm down or not there. Point and shoot would seem like the gold standard for her in an emergency. Then again she could just carry my G17.

                    CARCASSONNE: Damn, that's a lone handle! Is that your HK taped to the tree?

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                    • #11
                      Carcassonne
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 4897

                      Originally posted by Charliecgdn

                      CARCASSONNE: Damn, that's a lone handle! Is that your HK taped to the tree?
                      No, that is from the HKpro website link you posted above.


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                      Be sure to ask your doctor if depression, rectal bleeding, and suicide are right for you.

                      In the United States a person's expertise on a subject is inversely proportional to their knowledge of the subject: The less they know about something, the more they become an expert on it.

                      I am being held hostage in a giant insane asylum called Earth.

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                      • #12
                        JohnCCW
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1307

                        I would leave the Hk alone... IMHO
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                        • #13
                          Charliecgdn
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 92

                          It's nice when other people advise me to do exactly what I want to do. As soon as my o/u sells, TRP here I come! Among many other good reasons, the 1911 is the only good choice ( in CA) for easily swapping barrels. With anything else I'd need to remove the compensator in order for the barrel to slip out backwards, which is difficult when it's pinned and welded.

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                          • #14
                            bmk20398
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 1047

                            I remember I saw Ported long barrel very loud Glock at range,
                            maybe that was 460
                            compensator, pinned and welded Glock or XD will be annoying when cleaning

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                            • #15
                              Charliecgdn
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 92

                              It's going to be annoying for someone else. I'm done researching...1911.

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