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  • Randy Lahey
    Junior Member
    • May 2017
    • 8

    Desert Eagle firing pin conversion illegal?

    I just picked up my Desert Eagle on wed and shot it yesterday. Took it home and realized what an absolutely ***** it is to get this firing pin CA crap off the gun for cleaning purposes. Called Magnum Research and was told they were not allowed to ship non CA compliant parts to CA.

    Now my question is, is it illegal to convert the firing pin assembly to non CA "drop test" compliant status for purposes of their drop test? I'm not sure if it's just MR covering their own *** or just CA actually making modifications after drop test illegal? I just don't want to go through the headache of disassembly to clean the gun every time I put 50 rounds through it.

    I should also note this gun is a LOT more fun and reliable in 50AE, not sure if the 44mag ammo I had was crap but it likes a big beefy round to cycle completely.
    Last edited by Randy Lahey; 06-02-2017, 9:07 AM.
  • #2
    Batman
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 2561

    Call up Numrich Gun Parts or go to http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/966800.htm and get the 49-state firing pin stop and don't worry. It's sort of like the mattress police if you rip the tag off; no one's going to arrest you!

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    • #3
      Randy Lahey
      Junior Member
      • May 2017
      • 8

      Originally posted by Batman
      Call up Numrich Gun Parts or go to http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/966800.htm and get the 49-state firing pin stop and don't worry. It's sort of like the mattress police if you rip the tag off; no one's going to arrest you!
      Thanks bud! Will order.

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      • #4
        splithoof
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2015
        • 5714

        That's a great, huge pistol. Mine is in .50AE, made in Israel. They are boomers for sure. If you don't reload to produce ammo, you should consider it. Being how expen$ive factory loads are, it makes sense if you are going to use it to the full potential.
        Don't worry about changing out compliance parts on your pistol, Batman is correct.
        As for .44 ammunition, what exactly were you using?.....the DE's are designed to use jacketed bullets. Sometimes it may be as simple as a different bullet profile or velocity loading.

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        • #5
          dozer wright
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 2764

          Place a order to Underwood for some hot rounds . Keep an eye on Ebay for the 50 Ae kit Barrel and mags I got mine for under around $300

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          • #6
            Randy Lahey
            Junior Member
            • May 2017
            • 8

            Originally posted by dozer wright
            Place a order to Underwood for some hot rounds . Keep an eye on Ebay for the 50 Ae kit Barrel and mags I got mine for under around $300
            I already have the 50AE Barrel w/ integral muzzle brake and two mags.

            Way more fun than 44 lol

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            • #7
              Randy Lahey
              Junior Member
              • May 2017
              • 8

              Originally posted by splithoof
              That's a great, huge pistol. Mine is in .50AE, made in Israel. They are boomers for sure. If you don't reload to produce ammo, you should consider it. Being how expen$ive factory loads are, it makes sense if you are going to use it to the full potential.
              Don't worry about changing out compliance parts on your pistol, Batman is correct.
              As for .44 ammunition, what exactly were you using?.....the DE's are designed to use jacketed bullets. Sometimes it may be as simple as a different bullet profile or velocity loading.
              I was using Federal American Eagle .44 JHP (which isn't fully jacketed, but most of the 44 mag I can find isn't, lead tips). Also I would reload but I really don't think it'd be viable or responsible considering I live in an apartment.

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              • #8
                splithoof
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2015
                • 5714

                Originally posted by Randy Lahey
                I was using Federal American Eagle .44 JHP (which isn't fully jacketed, but most of the 44 mag I can find isn't, lead tips). Also I would reload but I really don't think it'd be viable or responsible considering I live in an apartment.
                It's not so much that the bullet is fully jacketed, it needs to be jacketed where the bullet contacts the barrel lands, and also importantly at the base of the bullet. The Federal loading you tried may be light, so try another loading.
                As for reloading, the necessary equipment doesn't use much room, and when done properly is very safe. And very responsible as well.

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                • #9
                  TKM
                  Onward through the fog!
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 10657

                  Lose the stupid spring, replace it with nothing. End of problem.

                  Buy the hottest ammo you can find and blast away.

                  It is really easy to load the 50AE. Will save you boatloads of money. The bottles of H110 have the recipe printed on the side.
                  Last edited by TKM; 06-02-2017, 7:58 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Batman
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2561

                    Desert Eagles like heavy bullets. In .44, you'll want to make sure you're using 240 grain loads. Using a 180 grain bullet will definitely cause issues. So will running the slide rails dry; use lubricant. Last thing is the gas port under the barrel. Using the tool that came with it, make sure you ream out the port after shooting to make sure it doesn't get fouled up and gummed up. My DE is in both .44 and .357, and doesn't really have an issue with either so long as I do the above.

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                    • #11
                      Randy Lahey
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2017
                      • 8

                      Originally posted by Batman
                      Desert Eagles like heavy bullets. In .44, you'll want to make sure you're using 240 grain loads. Using a 180 grain bullet will definitely cause issues. So will running the slide rails dry; use lubricant. Last thing is the gas port under the barrel. Using the tool that came with it, make sure you ream out the port after shooting to make sure it doesn't get fouled up and gummed up. My DE is in both .44 and .357, and doesn't really have an issue with either so long as I do the above.
                      I'm thinking it had a lot to do with the fact it is new and not broke in yet, it cycled fine plenty of times but did fail to feed a couple. I was using .240 grain but I might switch to higher grain in the future.

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                      • #12
                        Randy Lahey
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2017
                        • 8

                        Originally posted by TKM
                        Lose the stupid spring, replace it with nothing. End of problem.

                        Buy the hottest ammo you can find and blast away.

                        It is really easy to load the 50AE. Will save you boatloads of money. The bottles of H110 have the recipe printed on the side.
                        Wait I can just remove the spring and it will be good to go?

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                        • #13
                          TKM
                          Onward through the fog!
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 10657

                          Yeah, it does nothing for anybody who isn't a democratic lawyer.

                          Even for them, it's just a wasted erection at best.
                          It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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                          • #14
                            smpd357sig
                            Junior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 54

                            Thats odd. Im in Ca and ordered the non-compliant parts over the phone with Magnum Research 2 months ago.

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                            • #15
                              SkyHawk
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 23518

                              Order the parts and have them sent to Audiophil at Alphacat in AZ and he will remail them to you for a small fee.

                              Originally posted by smpd357sig
                              Thats odd. Im in Ca and ordered the non-compliant parts over the phone with Magnum Research 2 months ago.
                              Because you probably played it cool. OP probably freaked them out with talk of CA compliance, conversion etc. The words 'conversion' or 'CA compliant' should never cross your lips when talking to a mfg, same as 'off roster'.

                              Just call them and order spare parts for your free state gun. Simple. Plenty of people have moved here with non-CA DEs and I am sure MR is happy to service them since there is nothing illegal in doing so. CA allows people to move here with free state pistols, why the h&&& wouldn't MR provide parts to those people?? Do customers with DEs suddenly become persona non grata just because they move to CA?
                              Last edited by SkyHawk; 06-02-2017, 10:36 PM.
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