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  • Blue Line
    Banned
    • Sep 2016
    • 116

    80% Glock builds

    I see there are Glock slides for sale on ebay. Do these require an FFL transfer? Can the slide be put on an 80% lower with no/mismatched serial number?
  • #2
    Dago Red
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 586

    Slide assembly does not require an FFL. Yes you can put the slide on the lower, once you've completed it of course.

    Red

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    • #3
      RickD427
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2007
      • 9264

      Originally posted by Blue Line
      I see there are Glock slides for sale on ebay. Do these require an FFL transfer? Can the slide be put on an 80% lower with no/mismatched serial number?
      A slide does not need an FFL transfer.

      At present an 80% lower does not need a serial number, but make sure that you are well aware of the pending Serial Number requirements imposed by AB 857.

      You cannot lawfully build an 80% Glock by assembling slide to frame and then fitting out the remaining parts. You have two options for a lawful build:

      1) Build a traditional Glock semi-auto and complete the DOJ testing process, or

      2) Build a single shot pistol that meets the dimensional requirements of PC 32100(b) and is either "Break-Top" or "Bolt Action" in design.
      If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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      • #4
        tbc
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2011
        • 5955

        Originally posted by RickD427
        A slide does not need an FFL transfer.



        At present an 80% lower does not need a serial number, but make sure that you are well aware of the pending Serial Number requirements imposed by AB 857.



        You cannot lawfully build an 80% Glock by assembling slide to frame and then fitting out the remaining parts. You have two options for a lawful build:



        1) Build a traditional Glock semi-auto and complete the DOJ testing process, or



        2) Build a single shot pistol that meets the dimensional requirements of PC 32100(b) and is either "Break-Top" or "Bolt Action" in design.


        Could you elaborate on the first option, build a traditional semi auto and complete the DOJ testing. Does the test require a micro stamping feature and all other bs ?

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        • #5
          santacruzgunner
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2016
          • 549

          Just buy a real Glock. setting yourself up for a headache

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          • #6
            rm1911
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 4073

            Originally posted by Blue Line
            I see there are Glock slides for sale on ebay. Do these require an FFL transfer? Can the slide be put on an 80% lower with no/mismatched serial number?


            This is kalifornia. So no.
            NRA Life Member since 1990

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            • #7
              RickD427
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2007
              • 9264

              Originally posted by tbc
              Could you elaborate on the first option, build a traditional semi auto and complete the DOJ testing. Does the test require a micro stamping feature and all other bs ?
              The testing process is described in Penal Code sections 31900 to 31910. You'll see that it's pretty much prohibitive for a personal manufacturer to comply with. And, yes, microstamping is a requirement.
              If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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              • #8
                Abu Riyah
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Apr 2015
                • 523

                Basically, forget about (legally) building an 80% semi-auto handgun in California

                A legal 80% build looks like this in California:

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                Last edited by Abu Riyah; 05-14-2017, 10:04 PM. Reason: added photo


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                • #9
                  MrBlazito
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 1005

                  All these videos(evidence) of people in California building 80% glocks and 1911's and not a single arrest/case that I know of. Has anyone heard of such case?

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                  • #10
                    pklin1297
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 3287

                    Originally posted by MrBlazito
                    All these videos(evidence) of people in California building 80% glocks and 1911's and not a single arrest/case that I know of. Has anyone heard of such case?

                    I'm sure the OP does not want to be the "first".
                    NRA Member, CAPRC Member

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                    • #11
                      Lead Waster
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 16650

                      Originally posted by MrBlazito
                      All these videos(evidence) of people in California building 80% glocks and 1911's and not a single arrest/case that I know of. Has anyone heard of such case?
                      The law does not take effect yet.
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                      • #12
                        tbc
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 5955

                        Originally posted by RickD427
                        The testing process is described in Penal Code sections 31900 to 31910. You'll see that it's pretty much prohibitive for a personal manufacturer to comply with. And, yes, microstamping is a requirement.


                        Thank you.

                        I do like the new poly90 for the G19 much more than the OEM frame but it is just not worth it.

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                        • #13
                          MrOrange
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2262

                          For the theoretical-maybe-out-of-state builder who just wants a functioning firearm and doesn't want to get all Zevy with it, you can get complete used parts kits for less than just the slide.



                          Granted this particular one is Gen 2, but you get the idea.



                          Originally posted by RickD427
                          A slide does not need an FFL transfer.

                          At present an 80% lower does not need a serial number, but make sure that you are well aware of the pending Serial Number requirements imposed by AB 857.

                          You cannot lawfully build an 80% Glock by assembling slide to frame and then fitting out the remaining parts. You have two options for a lawful build:

                          1) Build a traditional Glock semi-auto and complete the DOJ testing process, or

                          2) Build a single shot pistol that meets the dimensional requirements of PC 32100(b) and is either "Break-Top" or "Bolt Action" in design.
                          I agree with this position, but I'll state another theory builders are counting on to keep them out of jail: They feel that the term "manufacture" doesn't apply to home builders who are making a firearm for their own use, so these restrictions don't apply.

                          Which is right? YOU DECIDE!! Our phone lines are open.
                          I meant, it is my opinion that...






                          I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
                          I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
                          You're my kind of stupid. - M. Reynolds

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                          • #14
                            gun toting monkeyboy
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 6820

                            You can still build a single-shot dimensionally compliant bolt action glock style pistol here in California. And there is nothing in the law that says you can't convert it to a regular semi-auto after you finish it. Inlander Arms make the bolt conversion kit. They also offer a .25 ACP adapter that apparently fits in a regular 9mm barrel. Or you can get the 9" 9mm barrel from lone wolf. Best of all, you can sell them when you are done, to make up some of your costs. Remember that it is up to the state to prove that you DIDN'T follow all of these steps to make your pistol. Not up to YOU to prove that you did. Just saying...

                            -Mb
                            Originally posted by aplinker
                            It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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                            • #15
                              MrBlazito
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 1005

                              Originally posted by Lead Waster
                              The law does not take effect yet.
                              Which law? In order to manufacture a legal handgun in California, it must be either in single shot configuration, break top, or pass testing to be added to the roster.

                              The serializing of 80% is not in effect until 2018

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