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  • #46
    Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    Originally posted by Webologist
    This. The gut level reaction is to state the S&W 686 has a better trigger than the GP100, but that has not been my experience. (J Frame vs SP101 I concur)
    I have owned and carried daily both the newer model S&W 642 and a Ruger LCR in .38

    The Smith in all of its painted on stainless finish and horrendous trigger / stock grips / non-existent sights have long since been sold and the LCR with factory XS big dot sight has remained. A better hideout BUG than the 642 in every aspect.

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    • #47
      Bobby Ricigliano
      Mit Gott und Mauser
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2011
      • 17439

      Originally posted by Two Nuggets
      686+

      Behold the evolution (or de-evolution?) of the modern revolver.

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      • #48
        nikki#2
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 2164

        Originally posted by Webologist

        This. The gut level reaction is to state the S&W 686 has a better trigger than the GP100, but that has not been my experience. (J Frame vs SP101 I concur)
        You could swap in a spring kit for instant gratification, but I would argue that's a good reason to go used... The things a tank and very likely the trigger will be smooth.
        And since you're going used, might as well go pre-lock & pre-MIM via SAE.
        686: Very smoooth, very accurate. A definite keeper. My GF prefers it to her Glock, so I swap in a crimson trace laser grip for HD.

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        • #49
          code_blue
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 3452

          Would you consider the Security Six as an alternative? It is the GP-100's predecessor after all.
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          Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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          • #50
            smith629
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 885

            Had both, sold both. Both are great guns, my favorite personally is the GP 100 match champion, it is everything the GP100 should have originally.

            Prices for old 686s are sky high now anyways; and who want's a newer smith with a lawyer lock on the side? Abomination!
            Last edited by smith629; 04-24-2017, 4:19 PM.

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            • #51
              jimmykan
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 3098

              OP, I have had both (well kinda: I had a 586, the blued version of the 686).

              I sold the 586 because it was just too pretty to shoot. The blued finish on the gun and case hardening on the hammer and trigger were really beautiful, and the trigger was good. I kinda regret selling it, but I do still have some classic blued S&W revolvers, I won't sell any more.

              The GP100 4" soaked up 357 Magnum recoil better than my 586, even with its longer 6" barrel, because the GP100 still felt heavier and the rubber grip covers the backstrap, whereas the 586/686 has an exposed serrated backstrap that directly contacts the palm.

              I have been to more than one indoor shooting range, where the rental GP100s have been in circulation since first purchased in the 1980s and are still working, never needed repair or tuning since. (I'm talking about The Target Range in Van Nuys and Targetmasters in Milpitas.)

              I don't have the most expansive collection or experience, but I have owned most of the major brands, and I have also shot some Charter Arms and Taurus revolvers.

              At various times, I have owned these revolvers:

              Ruger SP101 2" 357 Magnum
              Ruger GP100 4" 357 Magnum
              Ruger Vaquero 4.6" 357 Magnum
              Ruger Old Army 7.5" 45 Colt Conversion
              S&W Model 18-4 4" 22 Long Rifle
              S&W Model 19-3 4" 357 Magnum
              S&W Model 19-4 4" 357 Magnum
              S&W Model 37 No Dash 2" 38 Special
              S&W 586 No Dash 6" 357 Magnum
              S&W 642-1 2" 38 Special
              Colt Army Special 5" 38 Special
              Colt Detective Special 2" 38 Special
              Uberti Cattleman 1873 4.6" 45 Colt
              Uberti Remington 1858 7.5" 44

              I now have narrowed it down to the following:
              Ruger GP100 4" 357 Magnum
              Ruger Old Army 7.5" 45 Colt Conversion
              S&W Model 18-4 4" 22 Long Rifle
              S&W Model 19-4 4" Magnum
              S&W Model 37 No Dash 2" 38 Special
              [No more Colts]
              [No more Ubertis]

              The GP100 gets the most action.

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              • #52
                mlevans66
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2009
                • 9516

                Smiths are a better looking gun to most. More options for grips and add ons. The trigger is a little better and its made of a better steel. Rugers are Glock-ish. Not as pretty but work pretty damn well. Ive owned about three of both but the only revolver I have is a Ruger GP100 4" blued.
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                • #53
                  dougtoni
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 634

                  The 686's trigger is the superior over any other revolver out there. It can handle any target load .38 to 357 magnum loads you can feed it. Hands down the best.
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                  • #54
                    559BearDown
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 1555

                    3 or 4" stainless GP100

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                    • #55
                      Bobby Ricigliano
                      Mit Gott und Mauser
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 17439

                      Call me paranoid but I would be very wary of any action job on a revolver that is designated as a HD/SD weapon. I don't want to hear clicks when I should be hearing bangs.

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                      • #56
                        wisco
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 24

                        Have a 3" GP 100. After a little trigger work, it's the nicest revolver I own and I do own some S & W.

                        Having said that, buy the one that you like best. They're both great guns. Be sure to post a picture of your new gun so the internet can tell you it's the best or worst decision you could have made. Everyone needs a .357 revolver.

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                        • #57
                          TeddyBallgame
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 5732

                          might have to buy me a 686

                          just to see what all the hype is about
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                          • #58
                            stevemac
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 504

                            I use my 686+ for .38 Special and my 627 for .357 Magnum. Both are 4". If I get a 3 or 6" I might look at Ruger.

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                            • #59
                              JTROKS
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 13093

                              Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                              Call me paranoid but I would be very wary of any action job on a revolver that is designated as a HD/SD weapon. I don't want to hear clicks when I should be hearing bangs.
                              There are different types and levels of action jobs. You can get one to smooth the action and keeping OEM parts and springs. This is for defensive guns.

                              For some folks they want to lighten the trigger pull just a tad bit. Is this where you start rolling the dice? I don't think so. If you keep your gun fairly clean and test out your gun and ammo combination then it's all good.

                              Then there's the competition type of action job with lightened hammers and springs tuned to provide the lightest trigger pull. These guns are pure range guns. The ammo used are reloads and tested.
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                              • #60
                                BigPimping
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 21465

                                My vote would be the Smith & Wesson. They are so well finished and so smooth. I've handled one at a gun store and it was super nice
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