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  • HUTCH 7.62
    In Memoriam
    • Aug 2006
    • 11298

    What to do with a Mil spec 1911?

    I've got this older Springfield 1911 milspec GI,I bought as my first pistol a dozen years ago. Being one of my favorites for it's plan jane military looks. But it lacks in the accuracy dept.

    So what would be the best upgrades for this pistol to improve accuracy? Besides buying a new 1911.
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  • #2
    tanks
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 4038

    Most likely whatever you decide to do to improve accuracy would cost close to the price of a new 1911.
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    • #3
      Milsurps
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 2232

      Originally posted by HUTCH 7.62
      I've got this older Springfield 1911 milspec GI,I bought as my first pistol a dozen years ago. Being one of my favorites for it's plan jane military looks. But it lacks in the accuracy dept.

      So what would be the best upgrades for this pistol to improve accuracy? Besides buying a new 1911.
      Sell to someone (ME ! ) cheap to help fund a modern 1911.
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      • #4
        utc
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 1093

        Send to Springfield Armory custom department

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        • #5
          XDJYo
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2012
          • 6143

          Originally posted by utc
          Send to Springfield Armory custom department
          Strongly agree with this!!! Bigly! However, they are not accepting any new work right now. I'm not sure when they will begin to do so. Initially, they said in 2017, but they pushed that back farther.

          If you can find a 'good' 1911 builder, I would get a new barrel, bushing and see if the frame/slide fit could be reworked. It *WILL* cost you some dough. But, you will be able to have your first gun ever and turn it into a fantastic shooter! I would also look into a trigger job with some tool steel parts (trigger/sear/hammer & springs). IMHO, I would try to keep it looking cosmetically the same as a GI model.
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          • #6
            BEE
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 2904

            I strongly suggest Springfield custom as well followed by Severns Custom.

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            • #7
              Two Nuggets
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2016
              • 1054

              Why does it lack accuracy? Out of curiosity.

              I'd leave it be and just buy a dedicated target pistol.

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              • #8
                tophatjones
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1539

                First, figure out the problem. Have others shoot it to see if it's you or the gun. If it's the gun, check fit of bushing to slide and barrel. Also check barrel lockup at hood end. An egw angle bored bushing can be custom ordered to the exact od of barrel and id of slide. If lockup at hood is a problem, you'll need to hard fit a new barrel.

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                • #9
                  HUTCH 7.62
                  In Memoriam
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 11298

                  Yes I wanna keep it cosmetically the same. Love the look of a standard 1911.

                  Trigger pull is a little heavy for me. And the barrel is a little loose. It still shots good. I just want a little more performance out of it.
                  Some say that he once mooned two prostitutes just for a round of drinks, but wasn't surprised by the reply......They call him, the Hutch
                  Some say that he rode a dirtbike 7k miles across the country and that he once applied Bengay to his own testicles for a mere $50............They call him, the Hutch -Top Gear

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                  • #10
                    DArBad
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 2999

                    Have the barrel fit checked by a competent pistolsmith. He will tell you of what you need done: new barrel bushing, refitting of barrel, etc. Same with the trigger pull.

                    I gathered you want maximum use of the stock barrel and parts and not go through the expense of many after market upgrading of parts and huge labor expense? Several members advised the Springfield Custom shop. All good advise, however, Springfield is NOT accepting any work at the moment.

                    Try contacting Brett Cifaldi at Ironworkstactical in So. California.
                    Last edited by DArBad; 04-23-2017, 12:29 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Rbutler
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 675

                      trigger is super simple if you go slow. i bought an ed brown sear jig, and some arkansas stones and polished and squared everything. the bought a new trigger and worked that with a file.

                      also lightly and i mean LIGHTLY bent my trigger springs to loosen pressure on the trigger bar.

                      nothing like a smoother lighter cleaner trigger with less pre travel and less over travel along with a clean break.

                      as far as the barrel id send that to someone, im sure you can do it as long as you go slowly and use the blue stuff to see where its making contact and slowly take material off.
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                      • #12
                        AKexpat
                        Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 375

                        Originally posted by Rbutler
                        trigger is super simple if you go slow. i bought an ed brown sear jig, and some arkansas stones and polished and squared everything. the bought a new trigger and worked that with a file.

                        also lightly and i mean LIGHTLY bent my trigger springs to loosen pressure on the trigger bar.

                        nothing like a smoother lighter cleaner trigger with less pre travel and less over travel along with a clean break.

                        as far as the barrel id send that to someone, im sure you can do it as long as you go slowly and use the blue stuff to see where its making contact and slowly take material off.
                        ^^^^^+1

                        As I have stated in other posts, I cannot understand why most of you Kal guys don't learn to work on your own 1911 pistols (and prefer to spend hard-earned bucks with someone who may or may not be proficient). It's not that difficult to do. Trigger fit is very easy, one of the easiest jobs in the world if one pays attention; hammer/sear not so much but Rbutler is spot on. If one is uncomfortable working on your original gun's parts, you can always practice on spares from SARCO or Numrich: they are inexpensive and you can learn a lot.

                        Get Jerry Kuhnhausen's books on the 1911, freebies as .pdf files in the first two links here :



                        If this "kitchen table" gunsmith (me) can take a 1980's AMT Hardballer .45 ACP and turn it into a dependable HD/SD/CC/truck gun with a throated barrel using Kuhnhausen's books, the rest of you can also. I also built a 1911 steel pistol from a stripped frame with SARCO/Numrich/Wolff/Hogue parts and a JA Ciener .22 Conversion kit top end 4 years ago. Lots of elbow grease insofar as fitting was concerned but all turned out well.








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                        • #13
                          CifaldiPrecision
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1806

                          What to do with a Mil spec 1911?

                          A proper and safe trigger job for a crisp release with zero creep yet passes all safety functions is not an easy thing. There are a lot of trigger jobs out there but a proper one is another story all together. If youve ever shot a gun with a trained 1911 gunsmiths trigger work done you'll know exactly what I mean.

                          To keep the cosmetics of the GI 1911 but improve it I recommend a trigger job, gunsmith fit barrel and bushing, also have a reliability package done. Depending on budget slide to frame fit. These four things will greatly enhance accuracy and reliability.


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                          • #14
                            ElvenSoul
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 17431

                            Originally posted by IronWorksTactical
                            A proper and safe trigger job for a crisp release with zero creep yet passes all safety functions is not an easy thing. There are a lot of trigger jobs out there but a proper one is another story all together. If youve ever shot a gun with a trained 1911 gunsmiths trigger work done you'll know exactly what I mean.

                            To keep the cosmetics of the GI 1911 but improve it I recommend a trigger job, gunsmith fit barrel and bushing, also have a reliability package done. Depending on budget slide to frame fit. These four things will greatly enhance accuracy and reliability.


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                            • #15
                              tanks
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 4038

                              Originally posted by IronWorksTactical
                              ...
                              To keep the cosmetics of the GI 1911 but improve it I recommend a trigger job, gunsmith fit barrel and bushing, also have a reliability package done. Depending on budget slide to frame fit. These four things will greatly enhance accuracy and reliability. ...
                              A trigger job using EGW parts (http://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/eg.../solid-hammer/) including labor is $350 or so. Then all the other stuff mentioned will probably cost another $300-$400 and go up from there depending on parts.
                              "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                              "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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