Question on importing a Gen 3 Glock lower with my supplied upper

[fmunk]

Gents...

I know a out of state dealer offering a complete Gen 3 lower. I understand that I cannot import just the lower. So, if I supply an aftermarket complete upper (and 10 round mag) to the seller so that it can come to my CA FFL as a complete pistol, would the aftermarket upper make it out of compliance and cause an issue at time of transfer? Does it have to be all factory Glock?

I may just end up buying a full Glock locally and have a factory slide to keep as spare or sell. Just looking into whether the savings are worth it.

[9mmContagion]

I don't think it will be a problem.. so long as it's on roster

[solipsism]

Is there something special about this frame? You can easily sell a complete slide for $300 due to all the 80% frames people are building so it probably make more sense to buy a complete gun locally and not get shafted on the transfer fee.

[elSquid]

If the upper and lower are not gen3 stock factory Glock, then I don't see how one could argue that the resulting assembled pistol is an on roster, gen3 Glock.

-- Michael

[Cokebottle]

Check with a local 07FFL like Baboosh and see if they can handle it.
For an 01 like Turners, it would need to be roster-compliant when it enters the state, but an 07 may be able to import the frame and complete the build for you.

[fmunk]

Check with a local 07FFL like Baboosh and see if they can handle it.
For an 01 like Turners, it would need to be roster-compliant when it enters the state, but an 07 may be able to import the frame and complete the build for you.

Really not what I'm asking. Per original post, I already know it needs to be a complete pistol when it enters the state. What I'm trying to determine is if the after market upper would raise a flag and cause a problem.

[fmunk]

Is there something special about this frame? You can easily sell a complete slide for $300 due to all the 80% frames people are building so it probably make more sense to buy a complete gun locally and not get shafted on the transfer fee.

It's a factory stock gen 3. Nothing special about the frame other than price and what I could potentially save over buying a complete gen 3 Glock... even after I sell the spare upper. And I already have a non-factory upper (Suarez) that I've been using with a Glock I already own.

Only checking to see if the non-factory upper could cause a problem at time of transfer. Not asking about other alternatives. Already aware of them.

[fmunk]

If the upper and lower are not gen3 stock factory Glock, then I don't see how one could argue that the resulting assembled pistol is an on roster, gen3 Glock.

-- Michael

Christ. Does anyone know how to read? Per original post, the lower is factory Gen 3. If I were to do it, I'd supply my own complete non-factory upper so that upper and lower could come into the state as a complete pistol... per law. Again, the question is (and nothing else) if the non-Glock upper would put a stop to getting the transfer through.

The serialized lower is legally the firearm. If that is on the roster, my guess is that it should be fine. But looking for confirmation or experience from those who have done it.

[elSquid]

Christ. Does anyone know how to read? Per original post, the lower is factory Gen 3. If I were to do it, I'd supply my own complete non-factory upper so that upper and lower could come into the state as a complete pistol... per law. Again, the question is (and nothing else) if the non-Glock upper would put a stop to getting the transfer through.

The serialized lower is legally the firearm.

And serialized lowers are not on the roster. Only complete pistols are. I read your question, and gave you an answer.

What was tested and roster approved? Complete gen 3 glocks. Is your pistol with the aftermarket slide equivalent to a gen 3 glock? No, it's not.

"Christ" right back at you.

-- Michael

[9mmContagion]

As I stated in my first post, it should be G2G. So long as you send your slide to the out of state FFL and they assemble it and send it as a complete on roster firearm. I don't see where it would violate the roster

[NATEWA]

Really not what I'm asking. Per original post, I already know it needs to be a complete pistol when it enters the state. What I'm trying to determine is if the after market upper would raise a flag and cause a problem.

I purchased and sold glock frames. No, an aftermarket upper would not "raise a flag" or cause a problem with the FFL's I've worked with. It came in as a frame, was assembled into a handgun (you pick the caliber - can even make it a .22lr), DROS and pick up after 10 days.

[BagelBites]

I purchased and sold glock frames. No, an aftermarket upper would not "raise a flag" or cause a problem with the FFL's I've worked with. It came in as a frame, was assembled into a handgun (you pick the caliber - can even make it a .22lr), DROS and pick up after 10 days.

This shouldn't have happened. On the roster, each Glock model has (1) caliber. So if the caliber were changed pre-DROS from what is on the roster, your gun is no longer on roster (there's no .22 Glock on the roster). In fact, in DES, they would have to DROS it as an exempt handgun sale, indicating that you are roster-exempt. When a dealer sells a rostered handgun to a non-exempt buyer, if they choose Glock 19 in DES, all the other fields populate automatically; there's no way to change the caliber.

DOJ will tell you and any dealer that an aftermarket upper does not meet roster requirements, and that it has to be stock from the factory. Upgrades happen later.

[CandG]

The question is, if you buy a used on-roster handgun from out of state, and the previous owner replaced the barrel, or slide, or trigger, or whatever with something aftermarket, is your FFL in CA going to reject the transfer because the used pistol isn't exactly to factory specs? I'm guessing most FFLs won't even check, nor care.

[rock3ralex]

Christ. Does anyone know how to read? Per original post, the lower is factory Gen 3. If I were to do it, I'd supply my own complete non-factory upper so that upper and lower could come into the state as a complete pistol... per law. Again, the question is (and nothing else) if the non-Glock upper would put a stop to getting the transfer through.

The serialized lower is legally the firearm. If that is on the roster, my guess is that it should be fine. But looking for confirmation or experience from those who have done it.

Shouldn't be an issue. I just did exactly what you're doing. I had a frame come in to an 07, and supplied a slide when it was in and dros it no problem.

[elSquid]

There are no Colt 1911s on the roster anymore. Why? Because Colt changed how they made certain parts, and that was enough for DOJ to boot them off and require restesting ( and LCIs, mag discos, and microstamping. )

There are no S&W M&Ps 9/40/45 on roster anymore. Those guns had minor updates that invalidated their roster status and would have required S&W to incorporate microstamping to get them back on. S&W issued a press release stating that they would not make any changes to the SD or Shield lines because they knew that again, minor changes invalidate the roster status:

http://nssf.org/share/PDF/SW_microstamping.pdf

Purchasers and dealers that imported Glock frames with nonstandard slides/barrels/certain parts and who DROSd them as gen 3 factory stock Glocks in a dealer sale scenario broke the law.

( shrug )

-- Michael