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  • shortround1
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 993

    P2000 issues with USPc mags?

    Edit: Problem resolved, just a quirky batch of ammo and maybe a slightly overpowered recoil spring out of the box.

    I took my brand new HK P2000 (9mm)to the range tonight expecting it to function 100%. Very first shot was a stovepipe, I thought "huh, weird," and carried on. But then it kept having numerous failures mag after mag. I had several stovepipes, usually on the last round of the magazine, a couple of double feeds, and the slide would not lock back after the last round 90% of the time, it also spit brass into my face more often than not. I cleaned the gun before my range trip and the ammo I was using was factory speer lawman 124gr.

    I was running USP compact 9mm mags under the assumption that they are the same thing as P2000 mags. I hope I am wrong and simply have the wrong mags for this gun. Anybody else have experience running USPc mags in a P2000?

    Edit: I do tend to press my left thumb into the front of the slide stop while shooting this pistol as well, maybe this is a contributing factor. I didn't have the wherewithal at the range to change my grip around.
    Last edited by shortround1; 04-04-2017, 12:21 AM.
    So um... moon labia or something.
  • #2
    Saym14
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2009
    • 7892

    I have used the USPC mags without any problem. Did you try to mags that came with it? If it is brand-new you can always return it to HK for repair lifetime guarantee

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    • #3
      supermario
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 4569

      That is strange. Did you try multiple magazines? Also you said gun is new, then why are you using USP Compact mags, didn't it come with p2000 mags?
      Lastly did you try any different ammo?

      I had a experience like that with my Glock one time, It was a bad batch of ammo. changed ammo and worked 100%

      I wouldn't worry to much because those guns are super reliable, so once you find the issue, you can be assured it will be good to go after that.

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      • #4
        shortround1
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 993

        I was using only 1 batch of ammo (Speer lawman 124gr.) and 4 magazines. I bought the L.E. version that had 13 round mags so I didn't get any mags with the gun. I ordered some mags from Brownells during my 10 day wait. After doing some more internet sleuthing I'm pretty sure p2000 and uspc run the same magazines. Next range trip I'm going to try to alter my grip so that I'm not riding that slide stop with my thumb, I will also take at least 2 different types of ammo. Not sure if any of these were the main problem but I will find out. If I'm still having problems after next range trip I will email HK.

        Thanks for the help.
        Last edited by shortround1; 04-01-2017, 10:16 PM.
        So um... moon labia or something.

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        • #5
          supermario
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 4569

          Not sure where you are located but id be willing to meet you at the range to try out my mags. And yes the USP Compact and p2000 are the same mags. Shouldn't make a difference. If you tried 4 mags and it still had issues, then its not the mags. I'm betting bad batch of ammo, especially since that's all you tried through it.

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          • #6
            aca72
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 3200

            The magazine is a part of the pistol...

            When was the last time you cleaned your magazines?

            Disassemble magazines, clean the follower, mag body, spring, locking plate and floor plate. I spray mine with gun oil, brush and wipe all components dry.
            When you assemble them back, make sure the spring "locks" on the locking plate.
            Long live CALGUNS!

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            • #7
              shortround1
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 993

              Originally posted by supermario
              Not sure where you are located but id be willing to meet you at the range to try out my mags. And yes the USP Compact and p2000 are the same mags. Shouldn't make a difference. If you tried 4 mags and it still had issues, then its not the mags. I'm betting bad batch of ammo, especially since that's all you tried through it.
              I hope that's the case, I'll have to put some of this ammo through my glock 19 as well and see how that does.

              Originally posted by aca72
              When was the last time you cleaned your magazines?

              Disassemble magazines, clean the follower, mag body, spring, locking plate and floor plate. I spray mine with gun oil, brush and wipe all components dry.
              When you assemble them back, make sure the spring "locks" on the locking plate.
              Thank you for the tip but these are brand new magazines, today was their first time out.
              So um... moon labia or something.

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              • #8
                code_blue
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 3452

                The mags are identical minus the baseplate name of the older variants. The USPc used to be marked "USPc", "USP", or something similar designating the USP when the P2000 variant just has the caliber followed by "C". Now this also varies depending on CA or free state mags.

                The cool thing about HK mags is they are numbered 1 or 2 at the baseplate. I don't know if they go beyond 2, but that was there to help you identify the mags in case you had an issue.
                Last edited by code_blue; 04-02-2017, 2:45 AM.
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                • #9
                  The Fugitive
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 666

                  Try different ammo, hot ammo. Leave the slide open for a week or two and try again. Sometimes the recoil spring is too stiff.

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                  • #10
                    Fishi
                    Member
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 406

                    I had a similar experience with certain ammo first time out with a brand new P2000 (in September).
                    100 rounds each, 2 mags rotation of ammo brand:
                    American Eagle 124gr and Blazer Brass 124gr as you described above (stovepipe every 2-4 shots, double feeds)
                    Aguila 124gr had 0 issues. Have now fired over 500 of Aguila and still not a single issue.
                    Winchester NATO 124gr 0 issues.
                    Freedom Reman 124gr 0 issues.
                    Federal HST 124gr. 0 issues (40 rounds total since purchase).

                    I've got 7 magazines now that I rotate through with 0 issues with the Aguila, Winchester, Freedom, Federal

                    Regardless of reputation, try more ammo. I sold the AE and BB and bought a case of Aguila after that

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                    Last edited by Fishi; 04-02-2017, 9:22 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Saym14
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 7892

                      limp wristing could equal stovepipes

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                      • #12
                        shortround1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 993

                        Thanks for the tips. The slide is sprung more stiffly than my G19 for sure. Also, I will try some different ammo. Regarding limp wristing, I think I can rule that out, my grip on the gun was just fine except maybe pressing too hard against that slide stop with my left thumb which may be contributing to the slide not locking back.

                        I'm thinking the ammo I used was a bit under pressured or my pistol is slightly over sprung. Hopefully I can make it back to the range tomorrow to rule some things out. I may try locking the slide back for a while too.
                        So um... moon labia or something.

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                        • #13
                          tbc
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 5955

                          Keep racking the slide to loosen up the recoil spring.

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                          • #14
                            shortround1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 993

                            Went back to the range today and had a much better time. Seems like all the hiccups from the 1st outing were ammo related. I shot 2 other types of ammo today and had zero problems with the P2000. Thankfully, the Speer Lawman ammo isn't a total waste since my trusty Glock 19 eats it just fine. The best group I could get today was out of the Glock:



                            As a mediocre pistol shooter, that's about the best I do. The HK groupings so far are too embarrassing to photograph, but I will get more used to it in time.
                            So um... moon labia or something.

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                            • #15
                              supermario
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4569

                              If your used to shooting a Glock, it takes a while to get used to the HK sights and trigger. Ive had mine for a while and still getting the hang of them. It will get better though.
                              Also a well broken in Glock 19 will eat anything, even bad ammo sometimes. I would just shoot up that ammo though because it may not feed in any other gun as well, to me thats a liability to your safety.
                              Anyhow, glad it worked out. And the more you shoot your HK the closer it will get to the Glocks reliability.

                              Glad to hear it worked out.

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