Gen 4 Glocks

[19D]

Any one have any info or speculation as to why Gen 4 Glocks are not approved? Does Glock just not want to deal with CA anymore?

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[003]

Glock Gen 4's do not meet the "California safety standards".

The California Department of Justice (“DOJ”) publishes and maintains a roster listing all handguns that have been tested by a certified testing laboratory, determined not to be unsafe handguns, and that may be sold in California.10

DOJ may retest up to five percent of handgun models listed on the roster annually.11 The Attorney General must remove from the roster any model that fails retesting.12 DOJ also maintains a list of handguns removed from the state roster.

An “unsafe handgun” also includes:

• Any center-fire semiautomatic pistol that is not already listed on the roster as of January 1, 2006, and does not have either a chamber load indicator,13 or a magazine disconnect mechanism;14

• Any rimfire semiautomatic pistol that is not already listed on the roster as of January 1, 2006, and does not have a magazine disconnect mechanism, if it has a detachable magazine;15 and

• Any center-fire semiautomatic pistol that is not already listed on the roster as of January 1, 2007, and does not have both a chamber load indicator or, if it has a detachable magazine, a magazine disconnect mechanism.16

Due to a law that became effective January 1, 2010, new models of semiautomatic pistols sold in California are required to have microstamping technology integrated into the pistol design, or the handgun will be deemed an “unsafe handgun.”17 However, this requirement has been challenged by the gun lobby in federal court and the outcome of this litigation is still pending.

[csshih]

no microstamping, mag disconnect, LCI?

[steel30]

This

[Blade Gunner]

Any one have any info or speculation as to why Gen 4 Glocks are not approved? Does Glock just not want to deal with CA anymore?

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Micro stamping. Applies to all handguns not grandfathered in.

[iareConfusE]

I didnt realize microstamping went all the way back to 2010. No wonder I don't see any new semi autos.

Doesn't a revolver count as semi auto unless strictly built as a single action? How did the Kimberly K6S make it into the roster recently?

[91SDLegend]

Roster was already bad enough as it is with all the new requirements in order to be able to place a handgun on the roster with the extortion fee. The microstamping was just the icing on the cake.

[ElvenSoul]

How can they require microstampin when there is no working device?

[ElDub1950]

I didnt realize microstamping went all the way back to 2010. No wonder I don't see any new semi autos.

Doesn't a revolver count as semi auto unless strictly built as a single action? How did the Kimberly K6S make it into the roster recently?

A revolver is not a semi auto pistol. Semi auto requirements don't apply to revolvers.

[ElDub1950]

How can they require microstampin when there is no working device?

They can't. But they did. And that's why we have lawsuits going.

[stormvet]

Well Cav Scout, its more of California don't want to deal with Glock or any other firearm manufacturer.

[skosh69]

It's a glock, nuff said.

[Memnon]

Micro stamping. Applies to all handguns not grandfathered in.

How did the CA version of the Shield get on the roster?

[Blade Gunner]

How did the CA version of the Shield get on the roster?

S&W entire M&P handgun line (including the Shield but excluding the BodyGuard) were put on the roster before the Micro Stamping requirement was applied. S&W made a corporate decision to continue to improve the M&P handgun line thus losing the grandfather provision. For some reason they continued to produce a CA version of the Shield.


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[ElDub1950]

How did the CA version of the Shield get on the roster?

it was added before the microstamping requirement