CAA Micro Roni (glock)

[morepoop4u]

Replacing stock with a "brace" that is functionally the same as the stock on a pistol without buffer tube is looking for trouble in CA. Even braces on AR pistols are likely illegal, although we don't have a definite court case.

You don't have to run the stock either. It has a QD mount to run it with a sling only setup. The shroud is removable or put a clamp on compensator on it lol???. What are the current AW checklist for a pistol these days?

The factory setup


My photochop


Sling only action at 1 min mark lol

[Varg Vikernes]

They are dumb as heck and you are way better off just building a 9mm AR.

[M1NM]

I need one to shoot my Glock 18 more accuratly. It's also nice it'll hold an extra 33 round mag. What do you mean DOJ monitors CalGuns? Forget my post. I have no Glock 18 that I desire to turn into an SBR.

[Carcassonne]

Anyone have one of these? I was thinking of modding one for a range plinker witn a police trade in glock. On sale for $199

I don't have one, but I have seen them around on the internet. Most likely all the different models are made by the same company in Israel. I doubt they are legal in California. Seems like it would be good for concealed carry by a heavy security team.



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[sMp]

i say use your HG like a HG.
HG are for getting to your rifle.

[Justinoff]

If you think this is CA legal you need to take a step back and read some statutes


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[Franklincollector]

I have put over 1k rounds through one at my family's in Arizona. Not a hiccup to mention. It might seem like a novelty, but I felt like I had a rifle and pistol with me.

[AFTII]

Right from the horse's mouth:

"California: Due to California laws and regulations pertaining to firearms and firearms use, All RONI PISTOL [/] CARBINE CONVERSION KIT[s] are not authorized for sale or use in the State of California."

https://usa.caagearup.com/micro-roni-17-stabilizer

[morepoop4u]

Here is a better review of it and the removal of the barrel shroud.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/461325_CAA-Micro-Roni-Information-.html&page=1

Lol no shroud, no vert grip, no stock, pew pew. Phasers on stun???



"assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:

A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.

(B) A second handgrip.

(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

(D)The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

[Quiet]

"second handgrip" = any angled, horizontal, or angled grip
The extra mag grip and the angled frame portion forward the pistol's grip meets the "second handgrip".

"barrel shroud" = part that covers or encircles the barrel
The portion of the frame that is encircling the pistol's slide meets the "barrel shroud".

[Christopher761]

I agree with quiet about the legality.

More importantly, Why? To go from a glock pistol to a heavy thing which is still a pistol with no buttstock is just counter productive.

The original concept of a SBR with a buttstock makes a lot of sense, and would be more accurate.

Of course if you wanted to put a 16 inch barrel in it, and no flash hider, and a fin grip, and a fixed stock, it would be legal, but again, why? Very expensive, and not easy to hold.

Just another case of California polititians tryijng to regulate/eliminate fun.

[sMp]

Right from the horse's mouth:

"California: Due to California laws and regulations pertaining to firearms and firearms use, All RONI PISTOL [/] CARBINE CONVERSION KIT[s] are not authorized for sale or use in the State of California."

https://usa.caagearup.com/micro-roni-17-stabilizer

there it is.

dont get me wrong this thing (in original configuration) is pretty cool. if i had a FA glock i would put it in the roni. but i dont.

Practical > Tactical/tacticool

[IVC]

You don't have to run the stock either. It has a QD mount to run it with a sling only setup. The shroud is removable or put a clamp on compensator on it lol???. What are the current AW checklist for a pistol these days?

Think about it this way - AWB is a ban on *looks* and this looks like an AR pistol, so you can bet there is a list of cosmetic features you can't have. On top of that, you have potential federal and CA SBR statutes if anything resembling a stock is present.

Since this setup has all of the above, you would have to start trimming features until you are left with a bare Glock, which is where you started. You might get away if you blocked the magazine, but it would have to be a new BB 2.0 variety.

[shaocaholica]

Right from the horse's mouth:

"California: Due to California laws and regulations pertaining to firearms and firearms use, All RONI PISTOL [/] CARBINE CONVERSION KIT[s] are not authorized for sale or use in the State of California."

https://usa.caagearup.com/micro-roni-17-stabilizer

I called them about this and the only reason they don't sell directly to CA is because they don't want to deal with CA. They didn't know anything about pistol AW laws or the specific regs this could potentially violate. They simply stopped at 'CA' and said 'not worth it'. Don't assume that companies that don't sell to CA actually know CA law. Sometimes they just give up before trying.

[thcrusadr]

If you put a bullet button on you Glock last year, put it the one with the pistol brace and no vertical grip then it might be legal, then you would have to register it this year as AW because of the bullet button and barrel shroud

Thought you only had to have a BB if the magwell was outside the pistol grip?