9x23 in a 38 super

[autopro]

I have a RIA 1911 in 38 super and have been offered 2,000 rds of factory Winchester 9x23 ammo for free.

I've done research and some say they interchange and some say they don't. Anybody have any actual experience with this? I also looked for a conversion barrel but no luck. I did read where a 38 super barrel could possibly be reamed for 9x23. Any info greatly appreciated.

[meanrock]

36,500 psi for a 38 super, 55,000 psi for a 9x23 winchester. Sounds like a great recipe for a kaboom. Also note that the 38 chamber would leave part of the longer case unsupported. You would need a 9x23 barrel with the proper chamber support, and a mainspring with more resistance to handle the recoil- assuming the weapon itself could seat all of that properly. 9x23 is a dead caliber- I don't think it's being made anymore. Sounds like a lot of effort for 2 cases of free ammo.

Edit- RIA does make a drop in 9x19 barrel to handle 9mm- check that out

[Cokebottle]

9x23 is a dead caliber- I don't think it's being made anymore. Sounds like a lot of effort for 2 cases of free ammo.

Take free ammo
Break down into components
Sell brass for scrap value

Free money is free money.

[buffybuster]

The 9x23mm is a tapered case while the 38Super is straight. Whether the 9x23mm will fit in the 38Super chamber depends on how the chamber was cut. Technically it should not chamber, but if the 38Super chamber is cut a bit loose, then it may.

If you decide you don't want to risk it, I've got a 9x23mm, so I'd be interested in the ammo..... no joke.

[Fatcat]

OMG! If that ammo is the factory Win White box (JSP) 2k rounds is worth more than 2 times the gun! If you really want to use 9x23, I'd get a new barrel fitted to the gun. Like what others have said - you may/may not be able get away with directly chambering into your .38 super. You for sure need to tune the extractor and 18.5 lb recoil spring. You are all set - a 10 shot "357 Mag" 1911.
Or if you just want to experiment, sell the ammo and use the funds for parts, gunsmithing fees. (I'm second after buffybuster) Lol!

[JTROKS]

I have 2 open class raceguns chambered in 38 super. One will shoot 9x23 and the other with a chamber just a tad tight to reliably shoot 9x23. I'm thinking it depends how loose your chamber is reamed to. I also shoot 38 Supercomp and 38 TJ brass, I have an extractor specifically tuned for the Supercomp.

9x23is loaded up to higher pressures, make sure the chamber support is good and use a heavier recoil spring.

[Sailormilan2]

The 9x23mm is a tapered case while the 38Super is straight. Whether the 9x23mm will fit in the 38Super chamber depends on how the chamber was cut. Technically it should not chamber, but if the 38Super chamber is cut a bit loose, then it may.

If you decide you don't want to risk it, I've got a 9x23mm, so I'd be interested in the ammo..... no joke.

PM sent.

Since the 9x23 is one of my next projects, I'd be interested in some ammo too. But, you can convert your gun, using a new barrel, relatively inexpensively.

[Steve1968LS2]

Take free ammo
Break down into components
Sell brass for scrap value

Free money is free money.

Take free ammo and sell to someone with a 9x23 gun.. make money and less work

[Carcassonne]

I have a RIA 1911 in 38 super and have been offered 2,000 rds of factory Winchester 9x23 ammo for free.

I've done research and some say they interchange and some say they don't. Anybody have any actual experience with this? I also looked for a conversion barrel but no luck. I did read where a 38 super barrel could possibly be reamed for 9x23. Any info greatly appreciated.

Yes it will work, but it won't be as accurate. You probably won't notice the difference in accuracy. You may need a heavier recoil spring.

I have shot 38 Super in a 9x23 barrel, and 9x23 in a 38 Super barrel. This was in my Glock 20.

Chances are the 9x23 isn't full power anyways.


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[Carcassonne]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-HHrHRPhQ

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[I Swan]

I have new brass if anyone is interested I probably can beat any in stock internet price. I have ammo but will probably hang on to it some is Silvertip JHP though which is hard to find.

I haven't been brave enough to risk 9x23 Win in any of my 38 Supers don't want to risk damaging guns irreplaceable in CA. And no way I'd shoot them in a 9mm Largo firearm.

[Carcassonne]

I have new brass if anyone is interested I probably can beat any in stock internet price. I have ammo but will probably hang on to it some is Silvertip JHP though which is hard to find.

How much for the brass?

P.S. You can always download it to a lower pressure. I stay around 46,000 psi.


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[autopro]

Thanks for all the replies. I don't think I will risk trying it in the 38 Super barrel just not worth the risk. I did find some conversion barrels or I can have a 9mm barrel reamed for the 9x23. The round really intrigues me with 357 mag performance in a semi auto.

The exact ammo is Winchester Super X 125 gr rated at 1450 fps out of a 5" barrel, seems pretty hot to me.

I have to go to El Paso to pick it up and say good bye to my buddy who is moving to Hong Kong and some other ammo he giving me. Is there any market for 45 GAP? or 45 Super?

I will probably be willing to sell some of the 9x23 and all of the other ammo I get they all seem to be odd ball/obscure calibers that he was unable to sell to help with the cost of the trip. Fuel and lost income I am self employed and tax time just around the corner bad timing for me.

[I Swan]

How much for the brass?

P.S. You can always download it to a lower pressure. I stay around 46,000 psi.


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$100 plus actual shipping costs or picked up per 300 pieces of new Win brass in factory packages. If I am way off base send me a link to equivalent priced brass in stock.

I doubt I'll ever end up getting a 9x23 Win 1911 so I have sold off some of the stock of ammo and stuff I had for it.

[Fatcat]

Thanks for all the replies. I don't think I will risk trying it in the 38 Super barrel just not worth the risk. I did find some conversion barrels or I can have a 9mm barrel reamed for the 9x23. The round really intrigues me with 357 mag performance in a semi auto.

The exact ammo is Winchester Super X 125 gr rated at 1450 fps out of a 5" barrel, seems pretty hot to me.

I have to go to El Paso to pick it up and say good bye to my buddy who is moving to Hong Kong and some other ammo he giving me. Is there any market for 45 GAP? or 45 Super?

I will probably be willing to sell some of the 9x23 and all of the other ammo I get they all seem to be odd ball/obscure calibers that he was unable to sell to help with the cost of the trip. Fuel and lost income I am self employed and tax time just around the corner bad timing for me.

.45 Super will be most marketable since it can be chambered in .45 ACP pistols.