First 1911

[Rhyyke]

Haven't you heard the stories about $2000+ guns needing 500 round+ breakins? That could be $200+ for YOU to get your pistol working. Usually people just blame the mags (which are part of the gun IMHO).

Making the things too tight to squeeze accuracy out of them and poor mag design aren't the main culprits?

Of the many 1911s I've owned, I've always ignored the so-called break in and never had a problem. Between several Springfields, two Colts, a Kimber Custom II, a Ruger SR1911, and a couple high end ones none have given me problems inside of 500 rounds. Maybe Les Baer's do need to be broken in, but that's one custom shop of many. Hardly indicative of the whole platform.

The only mag I ever had issues with was the one that came with my Kimber. My Springfield mags were fine, though I replaced them with Wilson 47D's anyway. If Kimber's crappy mag is part of the gun, which I agree with, then why isn't Wilson's?

[crufflers]

If Kimber's crappy mag is part of the gun, which I agree with, then why isn't Wilson's?

I think they are. I never had an issue with any mags included with mine either from ACT, or Springfield. Aftermarket, I had an issue with a MecGar .45 10 rounder. I have used Kimbers in a RIA and they worked.

I have Wilsons for my 9mm and they work just like the Springfield ones work.

[MosinVirus]

Non-mil-spec 1911s have to be tuned. And even mill-spec 1911s need tuning at times to get them to run well.

It is a completely different design, which requires fitting and tunning. But it is still the best trigger on the market and will continue to be for many years to come.

So this design should not be compared to any polymer wonders, etc. They are just different.

Usually, from what I understand, having a break in period on a 1911 means that the gun is fitted tightly and needs to work itself into the minimal tolerances. Some factories nearly break them in for you, some have you break them in.

Anyway, almost any 1911 can be made to run like a true custom. Almost any 1911 can be made to look like a true custom. There are many, many aftermarket options. And still, it is the best trigger of any semi-auto pistol, in my opinion.

Buying one and expecting a Glock (by the way I am a fan of glocks) is unfair to the pistol. a Glock is a completely different design, and notice that while it may not require tunning out of the box how many people hate the trigger, or go and replace the connector bar. How many have to add grip texturing, etc...

Bottom line, on a 1911, the more you pay, the better made pistol you get (and better tuned). Go for a custom and thst thing will shoot quarter size groups at ridiculous distances without a single hiccup.

And yes, magazines matter, barrel to slide fit matters, barrel to frame fit matters, slide to frame fit also matters, extractor tension matters, barrel Throating matters, ejector length and angle matters, proper sear and hammer engagement surfaces matter, etc.

TRP is a great gun from what I understand.

[gumby]

For the same money, get a Les Baer.

This^^^^^^^I did.

[Calvillo2000]

Hello all. I don't have a 1911 (yet). I have decided that that is the next gun on my list. Obviously, there is a wide range of what is available. I plan to use the gun just at the range. I have other guns for carry, and home defense. Plus adding a new caliber (.45) is exciting. I'm not interested in a 9mm (or other caliber) 1911.



After much research, I think I want a Springfield Armory. I hear nothing but good things about them and their warranty. I kind-of narrowed my search down to a stainless steel TRP. Everyone seams to love the TRP. I don't have the budget for the FBI Professional model.



Then, upon more research, I figured that if it is only a range gun, I should probably have target (adjustable) sights. The Stainless TRP only comes with combat sights. It looks like the full rail comes with the adjustable sights.



I would prefer no rail, as it seams useless on a range gun. I think un-railed guns look better too.



This leads me to think that maybe there is a better option out there in the Springfield line. I do see the loaded target, but I think that is a step down (in fit and finish) from the TRP. At one time there was a Target Match, or something similar, but don't see that listed on the roster anymore. Would prefer to buy new, but could be interested in used, if there were no customizations done to it.



Anything else I should consider in that quality and price range? Or do I just buy the railed TRP with the target sights?



Thank you in advance for your help.

I have a nice Kimber 1911 Gold Match Series II 45 acp thinking of selling or trading for a HK or Sig.


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[Bad Andy]

The main reason behind wanting a 1911, is the trigger. All my other guns are either striker, or DA/SA. I have also heard they are fun to shoot.

Plus, a bigger caliber is always a bonus. (Currently only have 9 and .40). Later plans also call for a wheel gun or two. So many guns to buy, not enough money...

For .45, do people shoot +P out of their 1911, can the platform handle the increased pressure? (Not sure if I would, as my pistols can handle the +P, but I normally shoot regular pressure rounds).

Have looked at Wilson Combats too... but only a 5 year warranty?? My liking of Springfield was mostly for their lifetime warranty. But I guess like anything, if it is going to have a manufacturing defect, it will probably be obvious pretty early on.

[crufflers]

The main reason behind wanting a 1911, is the trigger. All my other guns are either striker, or DA/SA. I have also heard they are fun to shoot.

Plus, a bigger caliber is always a bonus.

You should spend a few hours shooting one first. The 1911 trigger is not a religious experience IMHO. Definitely not my favorite triggers. "Bigger" calibers aren't always fun or more effective for self-defense use either. You might love them and you might not assuming you never shot one.

[Rhyyke]

I agree with above, definitely shoot it more before you decide to buy one. I really like 1911 trigger but YMMV.

I've never shot +P through any of my guns. I imagine the 1911 would be fine with a heavier recoil spring.

[Bad Andy]

I have shot other S/A guns (CZ, Sig, others) from friends, and enjoyed the triggers. I agree that it is not a great trigger for self defense, and as stated in original statement, this will mostly be used as a range gun.

[crufflers]

I have shot other S/A guns (CZ, Sig, others) from friends, and enjoyed the triggers. I agree that it is not a great trigger for self defense, and as stated in original statement, this will mostly be used as a range gun.

I like the 1911 trigger better than the standard CZ75 SAO. I need to send in my SP-01 for CGW to fix.

[Bad Andy]

What are the differences between the Trophy Match and the SS TRP? Besides the sights, things look to be about the same. I see very few Trophy Matches available, (but few TRP's too). I still see it is on the roster.

Both have magwells, 20 LPI front strap checkering, (different grips), are they on the same fit and accuracy level? Similar pricing for both (although all over the place - same basic range).

What are the pro's and cons of a 2 piece vs 1 piece guide rod? How does one or the other effect the "running" of the gun? Is one better than the other?

Sorry in advance if I am asking too many questions.