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  • [MM]
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 4

    Who knows something about this model

    at the pistol is only 3 words: "Walther" and "Walther's patent".It would be great if somebody can give me some information abou this gun.

  • #2
    M. Sage
    Moderator Emeritus
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2006
    • 19759

    Wow, the smallest Walther I could find was the TP/TPH, and those are bigger than that.
    Originally posted by Deadbolt
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    • #3
      Rogerbutthead
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 3880

      Is that actually a pistol? What caliber is it?

      I don't see it on the Walther page:

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      • #4
        [MM]
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 4

        Its 100% walthers pistol, is that official site of Walther company

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        • #5
          dhl
          Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 244

          It almost look's like a cap-gun.

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          • #6
            CALI-gula
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2006
            • 7269

            I think this is actually a cigarette lighter and the spring and slide-button seen on the right side of the gun is for the flint cartridges. Just a guess, but I don't see how this thing could fire any ammunition; and the ;mechanicals and parts shown indicate it is a butane lighter.

            From what I can tell, the bolt/hex-cap at and below the muzzle is where you remove the srping to load the cylindical set of flints, and the circular white item is a spring loaded striker for the flints, with a valve to open and close the butane, when the trigger is pulled. No actual barrel is apparent so I am sure it is not a real gun, and the metal the whole frame is made out of appears to be cheap die-cast, similar to Mattel's "Hot Wheels" so I am sure Walther does not make this either.

            Alsio, I don't think Walther would make a trigger that looks that junky.


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            Last edited by CALI-gula; 08-27-2006, 3:55 PM.
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            • #7
              M. Sage
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jul 2006
              • 19759

              Yeah, almost has to be. Too bad nobody here knows Russian... Might shed some light.
              Originally posted by Deadbolt
              "We're here to take your land for your safety"

              "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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              • #8
                [MM]
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 4

                I have made this fotos and I can try to translate it, I was personaly shooting from this gun (without ammunition) and it can be seen that the drum is turning and it can be heard the hitting where the bullet should be. So its a real pistol.

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                • #9
                  bwiese
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 27622

                  This is a 'gas gun'. I don't mean a CO2 gun, but a teargas gun....

                  These 'shoot' some sort of teargas cartridge, and are legal personal defense weapons in Russia (and perhaps areas of Europe, dunno.) I am not sure what, if any projectile is used or if just a gust of gas is emitted.

                  I think this can be Googled for more information.

                  Bill Wiese
                  San Jose, CA

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                  • #10
                    [MM]
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 4

                    I havent found any information in the internet about that pistol and why then at the pistol is no serial number and model name?

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                    • #11
                      bwiese
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 27622

                      Originally posted by [MM]
                      I havent found any information in the internet about that pistol and why then at the pistol is no serial number and model name?
                      Well, this is a non-gun. As I said, it's a 'gas gun'. It's used in foreign countries, they may not care about marking requirements.

                      Some of these designs have been in use for decades - I even think these have been used pre-WWII for anti-dog use (with the same broad concept as the US "VeloDog" cartridge).

                      In the US I believe these guns would have - broadly speaking - roughly the same legal status as flareguns and starter pistols.

                      Bill Wiese
                      San Jose, CA

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                      • #12
                        bwiese
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 27622

                        Here's some info on Russian low-energy (i.e, non-lethal) self defense guns that shoot rubber projectiles...

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                        Appears these are Makarov variants that can't accept real loads...

                        I believe the gun you depicted has some kinda electric discharge mechanism that fires the gas cartridge.

                        These gas cartridges have a noisemaker component apparently too...

                        Bill Wiese
                        San Jose, CA

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                        • #13
                          C.G.
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 8256

                          Some of us may know a bit of Russian:
                          Upper left hand translation:
                          The drum is found here


                          Lower right hand translation (loosely):
                          The rounds are loaded here.

                          Not sure if that helped, but I think it actually shoots projectiles and most likely it is an actual gun.
                          Last edited by C.G.; 08-28-2006, 2:56 AM.
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                          • #14
                            bwiese
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 27622

                            Originally posted by C.G.
                            Not sure if that helped, but I think it actually shoots projectiles and most likely it is an actual gun.
                            If it is not a gas gun it shoots a low-energy rubber projectile and may have noisemaker ability.

                            Bill Wiese
                            San Jose, CA

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                            • #15
                              ivanimal
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                              • Sep 2002
                              • 14365

                              The plastic tube on the right is a lighter.
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