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  • #16
    ProtectThe2nd
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    Most ridiculous thread ever on CalGuns

    Hey fanboy...who cares; note: not a question.
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    • #17
      Capybara
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      • Feb 2012
      • 15308

      I don't. Buy a Glock. Shoot it. What's the problem?
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      • #18
        diveRN
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 1743

        Originally posted by billt
        ... The word you're looking for but lacking is adaptation.
        There is something to be said for muscle memory and instinctive shooting.

        I learned to shoot with a 1911 and various 3rd generation S&W pistols back in the late '80s. I fired thousands and thousands of rounds with those guns before Glocks really gained a foothold in mainstream US markets. I developed my own shooting style and "adapting" to one or the other wasn't something I was particularly interested in back then.

        IMO and strictly from a self-defense perspective, switching "back and forth" is not a good idea. Pick one platform or the other and train with it. Develop muscle memory and learn to instinctively shoot whatever gun you carry. A zombie apocalypse notwithstanding, adaptation requires premeditation and for the average Joe it isn't something they can afford if their life depends on rapidly and accurately deploying a firearm.

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        • #19
          billt
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 1179

          Originally posted by diveRN
          There is something to be said for muscle memory and instinctive shooting.
          I completely agree. I have no problem remembering how to shoot my Glock's. Even after I've shot several other makes and models.
          If common sense was so common, why don't liberals possess any?

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          • #20
            Jimmy's
            Veteran Member
            • May 2016
            • 2600

            It just doesn't work for everyone no matter how hard you pretend it does.

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            • #21
              diveRN
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1743

              Originally posted by billt
              I completely agree. I have no problem remembering how to shoot my Glock's. Even after I've shot several other makes and models.
              Great. One could conclude that you're not the typical shooter you refer to in your OP... you know, the one that complains about grip angles.

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              • #22
                billt
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1179

                Originally posted by diveRN
                Great. One could conclude that you're not the typical shooter you refer to in your OP... you know, the one that complains about grip angles.
                The grip angle complaint usually comes from people who are ready to blame the gun rather than their own abilities. "Can't be me, it's gotta be the gun". Or the sights. Or I need a hardware upgrade. Or...
                If common sense was so common, why don't liberals possess any?

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                • #23
                  Mayor McRifle
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 7665

                  Originally posted by diveRN
                  Great. One could conclude that you're not the typical shooter you refer to in your OP... you know, the one that complains about grip angles.
                  Well, he isn't really complaining about people complaining about the grip angle of Glocks (that would be too ironic). His beef, as he stated, is that he doesn't understand why people complain. And from his numerous argumentative follow-up posts, it appears that he doesn't want to understand why. So this whole thread is really kind of a waste.
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                  • #24
                    diveRN
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1743

                    Originally posted by billt
                    The grip angle complaint usually comes from people who are ready to blame the gun rather than their own abilities. "Can't be me, it's gotta be the gun". Or the sights. Or I need a hardware upgrade. Or...
                    That's just human nature... to blame anyone/anything but themselves.

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                    • #25
                      railroader
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3115

                      Originally posted by billt
                      The grip angle complaint usually comes from people who are ready to blame the gun rather than their own abilities. "Can't be me, it's gotta be the gun". Or the sights. Or I need a hardware upgrade. Or...
                      For me the grip angle on full size glocks isn't the problem it's the hump at the bottom of the grip. It just plain feels odd. That said I bought a glock 30 on black friday which I really like. With the factory 10 round mag it is comfortable because the hump is higher up than on the glock 21, more in my palm. As for the sights the factory sights on the 30 suck. With the top of the front sight lined up with the rear, part of the bottom of the front dot is blocked by the rear sight. I installed an Ameriglo plain black rear sight with a fiber optic front. What a difference. The gun is a keeper.

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                      • #26
                        billt
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1179

                        Originally posted by diveRN
                        That's just human nature... to blame anyone/anything but themselves.
                        Very true.
                        If common sense was so common, why don't liberals possess any?

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                        • #27
                          billt
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1179

                          It makes me wonder what would these 4 degree mismatched souls would do if the Army reinstated the draft, and adapted the Glock as the new service pistol? Like so many other countries have...... "But Sarge, I just can't shoot this thing! Got anything else?"
                          If common sense was so common, why don't liberals possess any?

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                          • #28
                            Carcassonne
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                            • Jul 2012
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                            Why Do People Constantly Complain About The Glock's Grip Angle ??

                            Because they have a cargo-cult mentality. They hear someone they think is an expert say the Glock has the wrong grip angle, so they repeat it - especially when they can't hit the side of a barn while standing inside of it.

                            Remember John Mosses Browning was god. Do not question god. His 1911 grip angle was perfect. Forget the fact that he made other pistols with different grip angles.

                            Grip angle changes with how close you hold your gun. Hold the gun out with arms fully extended and locked, and you need a more pronounced angle. Hold the gun closer to your nose, and you need a more vertical (90*) angle.



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                            • #29
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                              • #30
                                tanks
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                                • Dec 2014
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                                Originally posted by billt
                                The grip angle complaint usually comes from people who are ready to blame the gun rather than their own abilities. "Can't be me, it's gotta be the gun". Or the sights. Or I need a hardware upgrade. Or...
                                Actually, the equipment does matter. For example when shooting multiple shots faster (.30 splits or less)at a smaller target than the A zone for practice (4"x7.5" rectangle @7 yards) I was having to wait for the sights to settle as there was a tuning fork effect on sights. Changed the recoil spring to 11lbs from 12lbs and it made all the difference in the world as then I could shoot faster with accuracy.
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