Are all striker fired handguns flawed?

[uparmor]

To start......

I get it that most of us will not drop our carry weapon in mud, sand or water. I get it.

But, having said that it seems to me that the striker fired weapons have a glaring flaw. They fail to go bang and have multiple issues when something other than air/ammo is introduced to the weapon. Also I have been hunting and hiking and got my weapons very dirty and wet.

The striker, which is open on many brands, can hydraulic and fail to punch the primer.

The striker can get sand or grit in it and same as above.

The complicated mechanism for the striker may get grit in it and fail to work.

I watched multiple videos of Glocks, HK's, TP9's, etc failing to fire after dropped in water, sand and mud.

On the other hand a hammer fired Rex-Zero 1 dunked in water, sand, dirt, and mud ran 100%.

One huge issue I saw was that the striker fired weapons need to have the trigger pulled before you could disassemble but you could NOT pull the trigger and the striker remained cocked keeping the weapon from being taken apart and cleaned.

For the record I was going to buy an HK VP9 recently and started doing research on the non-hammer platform. I currently carry an HK USP 45 full size and an HK P2000 9mm. Both have been 100% reliable but not dropped in mud.

Not trying to start a fight over platforms just wanted to get more informed opinions before I may or may not buy a striker fired HK.

[Euphoria526]

Yes. Yes they are.

[robert101]

I don't consider the striker fired guns flawed but certainly some designs are more vulnerable to particular types of misfires more than others. Not being in the military and having to deal with mud, I don't see the so-called flaws you speak of - and I'm not sure the typical military man sees them either. I've fine with my carry striker fired arms.

[Tere_Hanges]

Hmm... this is a parody thread, I hope?

[deadcoyote]

Yeah, I know at matches 1911's always run perfect and the glock guys are always cleaning their guns and mags between stages.

[jumbopanda]

I only use single-shot pistols. If you're a good shot, one is all you should need.


On a serious note, I don't recommend the VP9 because it seems to have an abnormally large amount of recoil/muzzle flip for the caliber.

[003]

I disagree with your initial premise/question/comment. It has been my experience that striker fired handguns are no more susceptible to foreign elements that any other handgun, including 1911’s and revolvers. Ask the navy seals and the other special operations folks how their Glock 19’s are holding up in combat

Do you truly believe that your limited review, based on watching a few u-tube videos is comparable to the testing done by the US Military Special Operation Command and/or the FBI prior to accepting striker fired handguns for service?

[uparmor]

Yeah, I know at matches 1911's always run perfect and the glock guys are always cleaning their guns and mags between stages.

You pick a 100yr gun to make your point. Why not cap and ball?

[super_chief]

does it differ from a hammer having debris/object in path of action? causing fail/light strike.

mechanical device fail to go bang and have multiple issues when something other than air/ammo is introduced to the weapon. sounds about right

[shakyshoot]

So, a precision mechanical device might not work properly when thrown in mud, sand and water? You could have knocked me over with a feather.
I only own 3 striker fired guns, but they're all literally 100% reliable.

[Packy14]

To start......

I get it that most of us will not drop our carry weapon in mud, sand or water. I get it.

But, having said that it seems to me that the striker fired weapons have a glaring flaw. They fail to go bang and have multiple issues when something other than air/ammo is introduced to the weapon. Also I have been hunting and hiking and got my weapons very dirty and wet.

The striker, which is open on many brands, can hydraulic and fail to punch the primer.

The striker can get sand or grit in it and same as above.

The complicated mechanism for the striker may get grit in it and fail to work.

I watched multiple videos of Glocks, HK's, TP9's, etc failing to fire after dropped in water, sand and mud.

On the other hand a hammer fired Rex-Zero 1 dunked in water, sand, dirt, and mud ran 100%.

One huge issue I saw was that the striker fired weapons need to have the trigger pulled before you could disassemble but you could NOT pull the trigger and the striker remained cocked keeping the weapon from being taken apart and cleaned.

For the record I was going to buy an HK VP9 recently and started doing research on the non-hammer platform. I currently carry an HK USP 45 full size and an HK P2000 9mm. Both have been 100% reliable but not dropped in mud.

Not trying to start a fight over platforms just wanted to get more informed opinions before I may or may not buy a striker fired HK.

Seals have moved to glock, im sure they Never get their guns wet or muddy.

[code_blue]

Yes, all are inherently unreliable except for the S&W M&P series and the Sig P320 series.

[SkyHawk]

I'm sure the OP knows what he's talking about, and these guys don't.






The photo below was taken ~2005. That is a Navy Seal on duty in Afghanistan with his US Property Glock. I guess the SEALs
have been waiting more than ten years for this revelation by the O.P.

[AFTII]

Do you truly believe that your limited review, based on watching a few u-tube videos is comparable to the testing done by the US Military Special Operation Command and/or the FBI prior to accepting striker fired handguns for service?

ill-defined parameters will result in both waste and an inferior productunimportant details and byzantine rules the Army wants followed, many of which are totally unnecessary and anticompetitivehttps://www.armytimes.com/story/mili...gram/74834518/

Of course not. The government ALWAYS choses the best tool for the job - Osprey. It never commissions equipment with known fatal flaws - Challenger, Columbia, M-16. Conformist boot licker. Sorry the Tourettes is acting up today. Ahh, ****.

[Baer1911]

Just shot my VP9 last Saturday out in the open with heavy rain pouring down.

Shoots fine.