Microstamping sticky needs an update

[relatively-anonymous]

I just read the Microstamping sticky: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=884786

Almost three years have passed since it was posted. The link to the wiki is broken and several judgments have gone through and are in various states of appeal. Can we get an update to the sticky?

The questions to which I was hoping to find answers: Do ANY gun makers employ microstamping yet? Does the technology even exist to do this in a commercial environment and outside a lab? If so, has microstamping ever actually aided in convicting a single suspect?

There are miles of articles on how the practice is ineffective, unconstitutional, easily defeated, etc. but those specific questions above are hard to find answers to.

(I put this question in "California Handguns" forum because the sticky on microstamping is in this forum. If this should be moved to the 2nd amendment forum, I'll do so.)

[P5Ret]

You can pretty much answer your own question with one simple question. How many new semi-auto handguns have been added to the roster since the mico-stamping requirement was enacted? The answer is none, that were not previously on the roster. The other so called safety feature's are pretty easy to do, so that isn't the hold up, even if they don't make a gun any safer. No one is at least major firearm's manufacturer that I have heard of is using it.

[Garv]

No to all.
(Except for the update request.)

[ojisan]

The questions to which I was hoping to find answers: Do ANY gun makers employ microstamping yet? NO Does the technology even exist to do this in a commercial environment and outside a lab? NOIf so, has microstamping ever actually aided in convicting a single suspect? NO

Bold.

Even the guy who invented microstamping says it won't work.
But our wonderful CA Attorney General Kamala Harris says that anyone can do it so now it is required.
Welcome to CA politics.

And just to digress to the topic of crime solving, California has started registration of all long guns, while Canada just gave up on it after many years since it did not to stop or solve any crimes.

[Jimmy's]

Why worry you can't stop it or get around it, well you could move and that would fix everything California has to offer you and take from you.

[relatively-anonymous]

Hmm ... And further research showed me that the microstamping patent holder is one guy. I wonder if the deep pockets of lobbyists can pay him enough money to shelve the patent and refuse to license it to anyone. If that is the case, a subsequent lawsuit in California SHOULD pass.

[TKM]

You did not do enough further research. Try again.

http://www.guns.com/2012/06/18/calguns-foundation-patent-microstamping/

[Librarian]

Updates happen when information changes.

Sorry about the wiki links - wiki site is out of my control and went down last November.

It's gradually going out of date, but you can see the content as it was last year at https://web.archive.org/web/20151122....org/Main_Page

[relatively-anonymous]

You did not do enough further research. Try again.

http://www.guns.com/2012/06/18/calgu...microstamping/

That was in 2012? Damn... I see why I missed it. Thanks.

[cantdance]

Bold.

Even the guy who invented microstamping says it won't work.
But our wonderful CA Attorney General Kamala Harris says that anyone can do it so now it is required.
.

I don't know about that, but if it were true anybody (like for instance, oh I don't know, maybe criminals?) can file it down and make the microstamping useless.

[R-Cubed]

Here are some good reads why microstamping is b.s.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/02/mike-mcdaniel/crime-deterrence-solutions-micro-stamping-lie/

https://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/micro-intellects-micro-stamping/

..but our new Senator knows better.

[Librarian]

Closed - no point in repeating things we and the legislature have known for about 10 years.

2007's AB 1471 brought this abomination into the Penal Code.