Glock 19/17 RAW?

[zmreg]

A firearm that wasn't an AW but made into one by legislative fiat is much different from a gun that never had any AW features and you intentionally changing or adding a feature to make it into an AW. While I don't doubt that the state loves having another items under registration and under the most absurd regulations, the latter can be seen as manufacturing of an AW. Even with your willingness to have it registered, I doubt they'd let you do it.

I see your point. Do you think converting your "normal" glock to have a fixed magazine and a threaded barrel by the end of the year constitutes as manufacturing? Wouldn't that be the same as a "featureless" AR? And is it your opinion as well that if I buy a featureless AR this year, I wouldn't be allowed to register it as an AW next year?

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[ke6guj]

A firearm that wasn't an AW but made into one by legislative fiat is much different from a gun that never had any AW features and you intentionally changing or adding a feature to make it into an AW. While I don't doubt that the state loves having another items under registration and under the most absurd regulations, the latter can be seen as manufacturing of an AW. Even with your willingness to have it registered, I doubt they'd let you do it.

so you would say that taking a featureless AR, AK, SCAR, etc, and putting a maglock on it today and putting the evil features back onto it today would be considered manufacturing of an AW? CADOJ would block me from registering it next year?

If I go from featureless to maglocked with features before 1-1-17, I have not manufacturered any AW under current law. on 1-1-17, the law changes and my evil-featured maglocked firearm is "converted" into an AW by legislative fiat. I never manufactured an AW, it "became" one automatically.

[radicalray]

2016
AR pistol bullet button threaded barrel not AW
Glock pistol bullet button threaded barrel not AW
2017
I need to register as AW


I never built a AW doesn't meet the criteria the Calif Govt is calling it AW in 2017

[xxINKxx]

I may register a glock 17 that I have a Roni carbine stock for that has a 16" barrel. Fun gun. 17s are a plenty so no real loss, especially when you have a spare that doesn't get shot.

[plumbum]

Mech-Tech carbine anyone????

[Shumba]

I'll be doing the same thing with a competition Glock if possible so that I can run a compensator.

I want to run a comp/brake as well on one or two of my Glocks. Should be pretty easy to make a bullet button for it (file down the mag release so it is flush with the grip).

[Cokebottle]

I want to run a comp/brake as well on one or two of my Glocks. Should be pretty easy to make a bullet button for it (file down the mag release so it is flush with the grip).

Just make a piece of stainless with a hole in it the size of an allen key, relief-cut so it fits around the mag release so you can not get a fingernail under the edge, and screw it into the grip with two flush screws.

After registration, remove cover and fill the holes.

[Mute]

so you would say that taking a featureless AR, AK, SCAR, etc, and putting a maglock on it today and putting the evil features back onto it today would be considered manufacturing of an AW? CADOJ would block me from registering it next year?

If I go from featureless to maglocked with features before 1-1-17, I have not manufacturered any AW under current law. on 1-1-17, the law changes and my evil-featured maglocked firearm is "converted" into an AW by legislative fiat. I never manufactured an AW, it "became" one automatically.

Timing is everything. Making a featureless AR, AK...etc into a YET TO BE AW (i.e. bullet button) isn't manufacturing an AW. Put all the verboten features back though....There's nothing convoluted or sneaky about that. Just the nature of the beast. As long as you can legally get it to the configuration you want before the law kicks in, then I don't see how that's manufacturing. You didn't make it an AW, the law did.

[Cokebottle]

Timing is everything. Making a featureless AR, AK...etc into a YET TO BE AW (i.e. bullet button) isn't manufacturing an AW. Put all the verboten features back though....There's nothing convoluted or sneaky about that. Just the nature of the beast. As long as you can legally get it to the configuration you want before the law kicks in, then I don't see how that's manufacturing. You didn't make it an AW, the law did.

Bingo.

The issue is that to be legally eligible for registration, it must transition from legal to AW status on Jan 1 2017.

Not an AW after Jan 1 = ineligible for registration
AW prior to Jan 1 = illegal in 2016 and ineligible for registration