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  • #16
    Greg-Dawg
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 7793

    Go shoot one and decide from there.

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    • #17
      ThatFishGuy
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 1084

      Any ranges in sac or vacaville area that rent guns? not sure which ones will but im in davis and would drive anywhere within 1hr of me.
      -Sam

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      • #18
        AT'sGCSRT8
        Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 178

        Guns, fishing and stuff does in Vacaville. Most people on here don't like them, but I haven't had any problems. If you can make it mon-wed between 12-4 than you get half priced range time. You can't beat $6.
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        • #19
          Palindari
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 1020

          Got a XD-9 myself - love the look and feel of the pistol. Shot over 1000 rds through it with absolutely no problems (stove piping, extraction misses, etc). Never shot the larger calibur brothers of the 9mm. But I've heard great things about the .45 ACP.

          Had bought it originally as my CCW weapon due to its lightweight and slender features but there was no decocking of the weapon. Though I never draw with my finger on the trigger, there's always that "what if" factor and I'd hate to accidentally gouge another crack down my *** end, if you know what I mean

          So I opted for the Beretta 9000s 40 SW instead - I keep the XD for home defense by the bed.
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          • #20
            Dismal_Scientist
            Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 249

            It's worth going to the range and trying before you buy. Glocks and XD's are both good guns for the price, and the only thing I would consider besides personal preference would be the lower cost accessories if you go with a Glock.

            I think 9mm would probably be a good start if you're trying to keep the expenses in check.

            I recently went with an XD-40 sub-compact over a Glock 27 because I found I could fit only 2 fingers around the grip of the G27, but I could squeeze my pinky on there to get 3 on the XD. This made it more comfortable for me.

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            • #21
              jmf_tracy
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 1242

              get the XD in 9mm. i have 3 and i love em. have the glock and the 1911 too, but i love the XD's. as money is an issue, be sure and go with 9mm. it is a fine round and cheaper to shoot will some potent defensice rounds availible and will serve you well provided you do your part.
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              • #22
                ThatFishGuy
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 1084

                alright so i guess its pretty much settled on the 9mm then. Turns out my buddy just bought one so i can try that soon as he can pick it up.

                No dice on the XDm? my cousin IS LE, would it be ok for him to get one into Ca and then transfer it to me? of course this would involve a little hassle on his end but thats what family's good for

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                • #23
                  Gryff
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  • May 2006
                  • 12686

                  I have an XD9 and an XD45. I've also shot the XD40.

                  I think the final decision about caliber depends upon the intended use.

                  - 9mm is cheaper to purchase, has less recoil, and good self-defense rounds are available
                  - .40S&W uses the same pistol frame as the 9mm, has 10+% more power, but is distinctly more expensive and has more recoil (not painful, but not fun like a 9mm)
                  - .45acp has more stopping power, smoother recoil than .40S&W (the XD45 is the softest-shooting .45 I've ever fired), but is more expensive and the grip is physically larger (slightly, but still distinguishable)

                  If you trying to decide between 9mm and .40S&W:
                  - 9mm if you are going to shoot for fun a lot, want cheaper ammo, and are willing to accept a slight decrease in stopping power
                  - .40S&W if you are going to shoot for fun less, are willing to spend about 25% more on ammo, but want slightly more stopping power for home defense

                  Personally, if it is your first gun, I think you should get the 9mm. I don't think you loose that much in stopping power if you are willing to drop some $$$ on excellent defense ammo like Federal HST.

                  As for Glock is better than XD, it is enough bunk that you only need to worry about which feels better to shoot.

                  Want a sub-$30 holster for your XD? Look here. Or here.

                  Want to substantially improve trigger pull without spending a ton of money? Try this.

                  The Glock is great because of its proven reliability and mass availability of parts so that you can work on it yourself. But some (including me) hate the grip angle and feel, and find that the gun doesn't point naturally. Others like it. They're great guns, but so is the XD, so don't believe the FUD from anyone that one gun eclipses the other.
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                  • #24
                    JDay
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19393

                    Originally posted by ThatFishGuy
                    Any ranges in sac or vacaville area that rent guns? not sure which ones will but im in davis and would drive anywhere within 1hr of me.
                    -Sam
                    Cordova Shooting Center in Rancho Cordova rents handguns. $15 per handgun and the same price for all day on the range.

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                    WE RENT GUNS! Try before you buy! We rent handguns, rifles and shotguns for use on our ranges. FEE: $15/gun. We have many popular models from Beretta, Glock , Kimber, Sig Sauer, Smith & Wesson, and Springfield. We only rent guns to the public on weekends (SAT/SUN). We rent to law enforcement officers everyday. REQUIREMENTS: Handguns - all rental handgun shooters must be 21 years of age or older. Rifles and shotguns - 18 years or older. Must have a valid California Driver's license and all shooters must read and sign our rental gun policy/agreement. All ammo for the rental guns must be purchased at the range.
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                    • #25
                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30242

                      Originally posted by ThatFishGuy
                      No dice on the XDm? my cousin IS LE, would it be ok for him to get one into Ca and then transfer it to me? of course this would involve a little hassle on his end but thats what family's good for
                      Your LE cousin can PPT a Springfield Armory XDm to you, once you are 21.
                      However, you will get it without any magazines.
                      There are currently no 10 round magazines for the XDm.
                      You will have to take the large capacity magazine parts that your LE cousin gives you and you use them to make permanent 10 round magazines.
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                      • #26
                        ThatFishGuy
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1084

                        i found a local range that will rent, just wont be able to until after my birthday of course.
                        would it be that difficult to modify 12rd magazines into 10rd? i guess i could worry about that after, seeing as i would need to arrange things with my cousin anyways. I look into how much would be required on his part. I dont need him to jump through all sorts of hoops. I might be going to reno on my birthday, if so i could probably make a stop at a local gun shop there and actually handle an XDm before i go through all that effort.
                        thanks again everyone!
                        -Sam

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                        • #27
                          1911su16b870
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 7654

                          The XD9 is a great first gun. Buy it and an equal dollar amount of ammo and go enjoy yourself! Many new shooters I take to the range fall in love with the XD9.
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                          • #28
                            Gryff
                            CGSSA Coordinator
                            • May 2006
                            • 12686

                            Originally posted by ThatFishGuy
                            Any ranges in sac or vacaville area that rent guns? not sure which ones will but im in davis and would drive anywhere within 1hr of me.
                            Don't know who rents near you, but if you are around this Sunday, I'm shooting the IDPA match at the Sac Valley Shooting Center. If you come by, I can arrange to let you try my XD9 and XD45 if you want. PM if you want details of where/when.

                            Which brings up one other issue...keep in mind that if you get a compensated gun, you cannot use it to compete in IDPA or USPSA/IPSC (unless you drop the $$$ on a non-compensated replacement barrel). Not sure if that is important to you, but these are insanely fun sports that don't cost a ton of money to get involved in.
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                            • #29
                              WokMaster1
                              Part time Emperor
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 5436

                              What's so great about the XDm? If you are really set about it, why don't you just wait a bit for 10 rd mags to be available. In the meantime pick up a 22lr pistol & practice shooting. Ammo is cheap & build your foundation for that XDm.
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                              • #30
                                The SoCal Gunner
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2006
                                • 3319

                                The thing about going with the XD40 is that you can buy a conversion barrel to shoot 9mm for ~$100. You can also get another barrel to shoot .357Sig as well.

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