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[Stumpfenhammer]

Thanks HopetonBrown, good resources. I just started Steve Anderson's Refinement and Repetition dry fire book, so far it looks like a very good program.

[dwalker]

Try Ben Stoegers book and use his dry fire routines, they really work.

[technique]

Any particular reason these are shot from a ready position and not from the holster?

[k1dude]

Sorry, I mistakenly thought you had attempted to post something meaningful or relevant.

Humor is lost on some.

[neomedic]

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[FRIDGE]

For all of you android users, I used this free app and it works pretty well:

IPSC Shot Timer:https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.stimer&hl=en

Yes it will pick up other shots while on the range, but the sensitivity is adjustable so you can make them harder to pick up.

[bertskiii]

Thansk for the drills

[scadvice]

Anyone mention the flashlight drill?

[dwalker]

For all of you android users, I used this free app and it works pretty well:

IPSC Shot Timer:https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.stimer&hl=en

Yes it will pick up other shots while on the range, but the sensitivity is adjustable so you can make them harder to pick up.

Shot timers are only really useful at ranges where you can draw and fire more than one shot per second. Most public ranges (all of the ones I have near me that I know of) discriminate against the double tap. Another issue at a public range is that you cannot practice your target transitions, since the only target you can shoot at is yours, and even if you draw 1/4 scale targets on your single NRA target the 1 sec between shots does nothing to improve the speed or accuracy of your transistions.

In my at home dry fire I use the same shot timers that are used in most matches I go to a lot, but I also use dry fire timer and a few other apps for draw and other drills.

So basically what I have found works is:

At the public range I stand (or kneel or take other odd positions if allowed) and concentrate on accuracy. Start with a dot torture sheet and put 6 into each dot. Put up new target and go 2 shots each into dot 1, then 3 then 5 then 2 then 7 then 4 then 9 then 6 then 11 then 10 then 12 etc. 2 shots each dot, then change to the next drill, maybe you move the target out to 15 yards and try it. whatever you need to work on that builds accuracy and burns the sight picture/grip/etc into your head.

At home every night I do 15 min minimum of draw drills, usually an hours worth, and two or three nights a week I will get out the targets and airsoft and set up a practice drill, run that for half an hour or so then set up a "stage" in the garage and run it.

[dwalker]

I did and honestly it can almost agree with you that timing your long rnge shots to push yourself to acquire and trigger a bit faster can help, but it does nothing to help transitions, draw, etc. and honestly the mag change with a guy in the stall next to me is a bit risky. I was not going to say anything but IMHO trying to practice mag change drills "on the clock" at a public range is asking for an incident. If I saw someone doing them next to me I would check to see if an RO was watching them closely and possibly move to another stall.

I completely understand that public ranges suck, which is why dry fire and airsoft is so important.

[dwalker]

As long as they follow the 4 safety rules they should be fine, which is why I specifically link to them in my original post. Specifically finger off the trigger until the sights are on target, and don't point the gun at anything you're not willing to destroy. If that's beyond the capabilities of anyone, they should not attempt.

Sure why not.

It is. Congrats on coming in 104th out of 123 shooters at GSSF in August.

Class move! Validate your argument by congratulating me on sucking in a match. Never said I was a star shooter. In fact, I need all the help I can get.

Yeah I sure did come in that low. Probably should have actually shot my Glock more than once or twice in the last 3 months before deciding to go shoot that one, and I have a habit of slapping the trigger on the Glock, especially when I try and go fast, that I do not have on the M&P or 2011. Still had fun

I should note that all my dry fire and airsoft is with the M&P and 2011 platforms, and it shows.

[Packy14]

Some pistol drills when stuck at a public/indoor range that does not allow holster work or rapid fire. If your range is more restrictive about times/distances/targets, alter the drills. For example, if you have to shoot slower than 1 shot per second, push the target further out and increase the par time. If they do not allow targets other than what they sell, use the index cards as a template and draw their shape onto the ranges approved target.

Be sure you have correct technique; practicing bad techniques just makes shooting harder, and it's' harder to unlearn something than it is to learn something. Seek the guidance of a vetted, competent instructor. Caveat emptor. Utilize safe gun handling at all times. Memorize, internalize and practice the 4 safety rules.

What you will need (besides pistol and ammo):

Shot timer (I like this one). This is very important! If you cannot currently afford $130 for a shot timer, there should be some for iTunes/Android floating around out there. They are not as good as a stand alone timer. Use a shot timer for every trip to the range.

3 x 5 cards

NRA B8 repair center-sized target (download here).

Magazine pouch

black and beige masking tape

pen & pad


A busy range makes the shot timer unable to discern your shots from the others. But you can use the par time feature on the shot timer, as it will beep when you should start and finish shooting.

I'm not aware of any ranges that prohibit you from loading your gun from off your belt. If your range does not allow this, reload from the bench, or place the mag, bullets forward, in your pocket.

1) Place a 3x5 card out at 7 yards. Set your timer for a 2 second par time. From your favored ready position (low/compressed/high ready), fire 1 round on the card within the 2 second par time.

2) Place two 3 x 5 cards out at 7 yards. Set your timer for a 3 second par time. From ready, fire 1 round into each card.

3) Place two 3 x 5 cards out at 7 yards. Set your timer for a 5 second par time. From the ready, fire 1 round into a card, perform a slide lock reload from the mag pouch on your belt, and then fire 1 round into the second card.

4) Put the bullseye target linked above out to 10 yards. From the ready, fire 10 shots with a 10 second par time. Score the rings on the target (X/10 ring = 10 points, 9 ring = 9 points, etc). For each shot over 10 seconds, subtract 10 points. A score of 90 out of 100 or above is a pass.

5) Put the bullseye target linked above out to 15 yards. From the ready, fire 10 shots with a 15 second par time. A score of 90 out of 100 or above is a pass.

6) Put the bullseye target linked above out to 25 yards. From the ready, fire 6 shots with a 20 second par time. Score the rings, a 50 out of 60 or above is a passing score.

Write down your score for each drill in your range log/notebook, use the tape to repair your target after each string of fire.

Hopefully this will add a little more fun to your range visit. I also believe you'll become a better shooter in the process vs dumping rounds into a human silhouette target, and probably shoot less ammo in the same amount of time you'd usually spend at the range. If you do the 3x5 card drills 5 times each, and the bullseye drills 1 time each, that's just 51 rounds. When you get home, look at your notes and see where you need to improve.

Continue your practice at home. Cut the index cards in half, and dry fire practice. So instead of 7 yards away, you could cut the index cards to 1.5 x 2.5 and be just 10.5 feet away. Be sure your gun is clear, there is no ammo in the room, you have a safe backstop, and confirm your shot with a sight picture; no need to press the trigger. The shot timer I linked to has an adjustable beeper volume to make it home friendly.

I'm sure you could come up with many different variations of the above. Just be sure to record your scores so you can track progress. If you can consistently pass any of the above, decrease the time or increase the distance.

If you have any indoor/public range friendly drills with a passing score and par time, please share below.

Great advice

[Allbert]

I felt compelled to bump this back to life. i want other people to see this and I've been using these drills whenever i go to an indoor range. While supplementing this with dry-firing at home, I've improved a lot within the past year and I've only brought about 150-300 rounds of pistol rounds with me to the range 1-2 times a week.

[JS41989]

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[OCEquestrian]

Some pistol drills when stuck at a public/indoor range that does not allow holster work or rapid fire. If your range is more restrictive about times/distances/targets, alter the drills. For example, if you have to shoot slower than 1 shot per second, push the target further out and increase the par time. If they do not allow targets other than what they sell, use the index cards as a template and draw their shape onto the ranges approved target.

Be sure you have correct technique; practicing bad techniques just makes shooting harder, and it's' harder to unlearn something than it is to learn something. Seek the guidance of a vetted, competent instructor. Caveat emptor. Utilize safe gun handling at all times. Memorize, internalize and practice the 4 safety rules.

What you will need (besides pistol and ammo):

Shot timer (I like this one). This is very important! If you cannot currently afford $130 for a shot timer, there should be some for iTunes/Android floating around out there. They are not as good as a stand alone timer. Use a shot timer for every trip to the range.

3 x 5 cards

NRA B8 repair center-sized target (download here).

Magazine pouch

black and beige masking tape

pen & pad


A busy range makes the shot timer unable to discern your shots from the others. But you can use the par time feature on the shot timer, as it will beep when you should start and finish shooting.

I'm not aware of any ranges that prohibit you from loading your gun from off your belt. If your range does not allow this, reload from the bench, or place the mag, bullets forward, in your pocket.

1) Place a 3x5 card out at 7 yards. Set your timer for a 2 second par time. From your favored ready position (low/compressed/high ready), fire 1 round on the card within the 2 second par time.

2) Place two 3 x 5 cards out at 7 yards. Set your timer for a 3 second par time. From ready, fire 1 round into each card.

3) Place two 3 x 5 cards out at 7 yards. Set your timer for a 5 second par time. From the ready, fire 1 round into a card, perform a slide lock reload from the mag pouch on your belt, and then fire 1 round into the second card.

4) Put the bullseye target linked above out to 10 yards. From the ready, fire 10 shots with a 10 second par time. Score the rings on the target (X/10 ring = 10 points, 9 ring = 9 points, etc). For each shot over 10 seconds, subtract 10 points. A score of 90 out of 100 or above is a pass.

5) Put the bullseye target linked above out to 15 yards. From the ready, fire 10 shots with a 15 second par time. A score of 90 out of 100 or above is a pass.

6) Put the bullseye target linked above out to 25 yards. From the ready, fire 6 shots with a 20 second par time. Score the rings, a 50 out of 60 or above is a passing score.

Write down your score for each drill in your range log/notebook, use the tape to repair your target after each string of fire.

Hopefully this will add a little more fun to your range visit. I also believe you'll become a better shooter in the process vs dumping rounds into a human silhouette target, and probably shoot less ammo in the same amount of time you'd usually spend at the range. If you do the 3x5 card drills 5 times each, and the bullseye drills 1 time each, that's just 51 rounds. When you get home, look at your notes and see where you need to improve.

Continue your practice at home. Cut the index cards in half, and dry fire practice. So instead of 7 yards away, you could cut the index cards to 1.5 x 2.5 and be just 10.5 feet away. Be sure your gun is clear, there is no ammo in the room, you have a safe backstop, and confirm your shot with a sight picture; no need to press the trigger. The shot timer I linked to has an adjustable beeper volume to make it home friendly.

I'm sure you could come up with many different variations of the above. Just be sure to record your scores so you can track progress. If you can consistently pass any of the above, decrease the time or increase the distance.

If you have any indoor/public range friendly drills with a passing score and par time, please share below.

Great advice....!!! I would add for those who comete IDPA / USPSA to use the appropriate cardboard silhouette target for your discipline and outline /tape the cards to the target.