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  • JohnnyAppleseed
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 46

    Can I Make My Own .22 Caliber Flashlight Gun?

    I'm pretty good with tinkering around. Recently I've seen videos on Youtube showing people creating "Pen guns" also known as "Zip Guns."

    I was thinking that I could probably convert a Mini Maglight into a pretty awesome single shot .22. The problem is the law. Seems like it could be against the law to make a zip gun. I don't want to do anything illegal so I'm debating.

    I've read a few sites with different interpretations. I've read the 3 requirements (regarding taxation, etc.) and it would seem Zip Guns would be a no-no for "commercial use" but maybe private use would be okay. Is there a bonafide expert on here who could help me out with figuring out if the mission I'm embarking on is legal?

    I want to do it for "fun" more than anything, but it would be no fun having to do a couple years for having a concealed/modified/home made weapon. I read somewhere that even potato guns could be illegal? Oy vey. Help.

    Thank you.
  • #2
    easy
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1287

    Not legal here in CA.
    The thing with firearms is that they are not like any other consumer product, simple ownership of one carries a lot of responsibility.

    Some idiots are too busy knowing it all to ever learn anything
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    "...this isn't a perfect world. It's California."

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    • #3
      ojisan
      Agent 86
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2008
      • 11747

      Not legal.
      Do not do this.

      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
      I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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      • #4
        Echidin
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 3056

        For the love of Charleston Heston, don't do it!!!

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        • #5
          MrSlippyFist
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 1357

          Strong front-runner for today's boneheaded question award.

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          • #6
            461
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2003
            • 619

            I'm thinking it was a pretty darned good idea to ask first. Boneheaded would have been uploading a picture and saying "Hey guys check this out".
            -Tim-

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            • #7
              gose
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 3951

              Originally posted by 461
              I'm thinking it was a pretty darned good idea to ask first. Boneheaded would have been uploading a picture and saying "Hey guys check this out".
              Lately that would probably just be considered fairly normal behavior
              With Oden on our side.

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              • #8
                LkPillsburyDude
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 921

                Not a boneheaded question.

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                • #9
                  JTROKS
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 13093

                  You can make a single shot pistol, but you can't make a zip gun.
                  The wise man said just find your place
                  In the eye of the storm
                  Seek the roses along the way
                  Just beware of the thorns...
                  K. Meine

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                  • #10
                    smogcity
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1081

                    where's the zip gun/home manufactured pistol legal dividing line? Or is it subjective?

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                    • #11
                      Flying Bones
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1419

                      +1 Appleseed. I thought it was a good question, albeit boneheaded, you're thinking and I like that.
                      Originally posted by Aleksei Vasiliev
                      What's the best way to turn a black glock pink?
                      Originally posted by huck
                      You still can't wear it in the parade.


                      Lord, protect me from my friends. I can handle my enemies.

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                      • #12
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30241

                        Originally posted by smogcity
                        where's the zip gun/home manufactured pistol legal dividing line? Or is it subjective?
                        Read the law.

                        Penal Code 12020
                        (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
                        (1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol, any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sandclub, sap, or sandbag.
                        (c)(10) As used in this section, a "zip gun" means any weapon or device which meets all of the following criteria:
                        (A) It was not imported as a firearm by an importer licensed pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
                        (B) It was not originally designed to be a firearm by a manufacturer licensed pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
                        (C) No tax was paid on the weapon or device nor was an exemption from paying tax on that weapon or device granted under Section 4181 and Subchapters F (commencing with Section 4216) and G (commencing with Section 4221) of Chapter 32 of Title 26 of the United States Code, as amended, and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
                        (D) It is made or altered to expel a projectile by the force of an explosion or other form of combustion.
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                        • #13
                          walter
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 1040

                          its only illegal if you get caught
                          WTB:
                          PW9142LP
                          SA GI 1911 Champion/Commander All Steel

                          Originally posted by tonelar
                          my recurring gun dream is one where I'm trading shots with BGs and my thompson is only a semi... oh wait, that's not a dream, that's California.

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                          • #14
                            recshooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 725

                            You could always turn it into a fleshlight instead

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                            • #15
                              rayra
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 1747

                              Originally posted by LkPillsburyDude
                              Not a boneheaded question.
                              Just a boneheaded idea. Who doesn't know 'zip' guns are verboten?

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