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  • smokycuh
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 705

    did i get ripped off?

    i bought a beretta 92fs italian made the other day. I didn't think about the price at the time because i had been looking all over for one NIB. Anyway i payed $650 for it NIB. Total came out to about $729.63 it seemed i payed a high price but i've heard they are rare to come by. Funny thing is i checked the beretta site and a US model is $650 so i payed retail price of an american made for an italian made model. I am very confused because there are so many different answers on the net. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
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  • #2
    big jon
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1905

    92f

    Just shoot it that dosn`t sound too bad a price,The way i look at guns i payed too much for is that i better keep them longer to get my $ worth
    The 92 i have has more rounds thru it than i can count, it still has a long way to go befor i think of replacing it,(enjoy)

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    • #3
      The Soup Nazi
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 2455

      Well, thats the retail price. One can hope to beat the retail price since you know, the point is that you're going out there and buying from dealers who will usually charge less than the retail price. The retail price for an M9 on the Beretta website was 850 dollars US (Jeez, you can get a 20th anniversary commerative model for that can't you?), while my dad paid 650 dollars for an M9 new in an unopened box rather than just the Beretta 92FS (But then again, these are mechanically the same guns, its just that with the former its about cosmetics, plus the military markings rather than civilian markings factoring in that you're getting the model of pistol that our forces are using today).

      For the retail price listed on Beretta's website, we essentialy got the same price with the "bonus" of having the name, but by all means we've got identical pistols so mechanically you did just as well as we did.

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      • #4
        C.G.
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 8206

        Originally posted by smokycuh
        i bought a beretta 92fs italian made the other day. I didn't think about the price at the time because i had been looking all over for one NIB. Anyway i payed $650 for it NIB. Total came out to about $729.63 it seemed i payed a high price but i've heard they are rare to come by. Funny thing is i checked the beretta site and a US model is $650 so i payed retail price of an american made for an italian made model. I am very confused because there are so many different answers on the net. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
        I am no expert on Berettas but some Italian made models are regarded to be better than American made, not sure why. This would be the place to ask:


        P.S. Ask yourself the same question in a year or two. Then you will know.
        Last edited by C.G.; 08-14-2006, 2:40 PM.
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        • #5
          Stanze
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 3301

          Originally posted by C.G.
          I am no expert on Berettas but some Italian made models are regarded to be better than American made, not sure why. This would be the place to ask:


          P.S. Ask yourself the same question in a year or two. Then you will know.
          I heard on the grapevine that the Italian-made Beretta's have better metal because they don't have to anwser to the EPA. Who knows how true that is? I've personally released the slide on a US made Beretta 92FS only for it to fall to the floor due to a brittle slide retaining part.
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          • #6
            anotherone
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 972

            Whenever I buy a handgun the way I look at it is "Good thing I got that one before it dropped off the list!". Regardless of what you paid, you now have a gun that will likely be unavailable in the comming years. Take good care of it and enjoy it.

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            • #7
              VeryCoolCat
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2006
              • 11275

              There are rumors that the beretta will drop off the list of approved handguns (as a protest? or just not enough sales) as glock is also dropping several handguns if not all handguns off the list.
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              • #8
                metalhead357
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2006
                • 5546

                I dont believe you got ripped; you didn't "score" but you did ok. In many peeeps minds' the Italian ones are better and worth more.......

                Dont get buyer's remorse over a good gun at an ok price
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                • #9
                  NRAhighpowershooter
                  Super Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6485

                  List is $650 for a American built 92FS?? WOW!! I got a SMOKIN deal on my M9 I bought a few months ago...I paid $550 for mine NIB and right next to it on the shelf was a 92FS (American built) for the same price.... Shop?? Irvington Arms of course!!
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                  • #10
                    PistolKidd
                    Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 198

                    I agree with the pricing.. you didnt get burned, but you didnt get a great deal..

                    Im sure if you looked a bit on the internet, you'd find one for a little cheaper.. but factor everything in, shipping + dros.. you probably wouldnt have saved more than $70 bucks than waht you already paid..

                    Value vs Money spent is always one of those big issues that, imho, is subjective.. Me, I grew up poor as dirt.. That was then, this is now.. I have a good job that pays well... It's easier to buy stuff.. I dont sweat trying to save 20-40 dollars here or there..Yes yes, it's all money and it doesnt grow on trees.. but I find that if Im happy wiht my purchase, than the money, no matter how much i paid, was spent "well".. Sure i like to get a good bargain like everyone else.. but in the grand scheme of things, I'd rather spend more on stuff and be happy wiht it, than spend less and find that it wasnt what i wanted..

                    In this case, you really didnt get burned..and if so, it was only a small amount.. Me personally, I wouldve bought a Sig Sauer for that much

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                    • #11
                      The Soup Nazi
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2455

                      You should also feel good if you're shopping locally, after all, they have to make their daily bread as well too, depending on the kind of people you're dealing with, if you treat them with respect and give their reasonably priced products some consideration, they just might go out of their way to take care of you later on.

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                      • #12
                        rorschach
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 4405

                        Originally posted by VeryCoolCat
                        There are rumors that the beretta will drop off the list of approved handguns (as a protest? or just not enough sales) as glock is also dropping several handguns if not all handguns off the list.
                        Really?? Where did you hear this "rumor"?? Did you read this somewhere, or did some dude tell you this?

                        I find it hard to believe that Glock would be dropping all their handguns in California, considering Turners alone sells over 50 Glocks a week.
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                        • #13
                          Apeman88
                          Member
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 152

                          I bought a 92F more than 15 years ago... one of the first 92Fs made in the USA... a friend bought an italian made 92F within a few weeks of me for $100 more. We compared the 2 guns and I have to say... I would of gladly paid $100 more for the italian made 92F. Overall... the italian finish and metal seems better... overall feel and mechanics (slides and etc) also feel smoother than mine.

                          We both have over 8K rounds through our 92Fs by now. I can see the rear slide groves on the receiver has excessive wear down to bare (shiny) metal on my american made 92F while his italian made 92F still looks normal with no wear marks. We both shoot standard 124gr FMJ... don;t shoot +P ammo at all.

                          Don't get me wrong, my american made 92F shoots flawless... not a single jam in over 8K rounds. But the italian 92F is simply better IMO.

                          BTW... part of the reason I don;t shoot +P ammo in my american made 92F is that within the first year the 92F was made in the USA... a few slides popped off the reciever and injured a few military guys... if memory serves, it killed one guy. Offically, problem was traced back to the use of +P ammo... unoffically, it was becuase the american made 92F uses metal not as good of a quality as the italian made 92F... all slide popping off problems were found on american made 92F only... none of the italian made 92F had problems. Soon after this problem was found... Beretta went to 92FS with improvements including reinforced slide groves on the reciever.

                          Ken

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                          • #14
                            ivanimal
                            Janitors assistant
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 14357

                            Originally posted by Apeman88
                            I bought a 92F more than 15 years ago... one of the first 92Fs made in the USA... a friend bought an italian made 92F within a few weeks of me for $100 more. We compared the 2 guns and I have to say... I would of gladly paid $100 more for the italian made 92F. Overall... the italian finish and metal seems better... overall feel and mechanics (slides and etc) also feel smoother than mine.

                            We both have over 8K rounds through our 92Fs by now. I can see the rear slide groves on the receiver has excessive wear down to bare (shiny) metal on my american made 92F while his italian made 92F still looks normal with no wear marks. We both shoot standard 124gr FMJ... don;t shoot +P ammo at all.

                            Don't get me wrong, my american made 92F shoots flawless... not a single jam in over 8K rounds. But the italian 92F is simply better IMO.

                            BTW... part of the reason I don;t shoot +P ammo in my american made 92F is that within the first year the 92F was made in the USA... a few slides popped off the reciever and injured a few military guys... if memory serves, it killed one guy. Offically, problem was traced back to the use of +P ammo... unoffically, it was becuase the american made 92F uses metal not as good of a quality as the italian made 92F... all slide popping off problems were found on american made 92F only... none of the italian made 92F had problems. Soon after this problem was found... Beretta went to 92FS with improvements including reinforced slide groves on the reciever.

                            Ken

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                            • #15
                              smokycuh
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 705

                              wow this is really a lot of helpful information thanks.
                              Lasd Ccw timeline
                              7/20/22 paper app dropped to station
                              11/30/22 inputted into system
                              2/15/24 email requesting docs/livescan
                              2/17/24 email confirmation of docs received
                              2/22/24 livescan completed
                              3/15/24 phone interview completed

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