When to adjust the sights?

[nothingextra]

I have an MGW tool you can use.
I shoot at Richmond, San Leandro, and Circle S.
Pm me and we can work it out.

[osis32]

It could be familiarity and trigger with your 357 that helps you shoot it more accurately. I find if I take out multiple pistols I rarely shoot any of them particularly accurately because they all have different triggers. Definitely have someone else that you know is skilled shoot it rested. Take human error out of the equation as much as possible. Then if you need to adjust sights do so.

[smak28]

OP - Where in NorCal are you? I'm sure there are plenty of fine folks that can probably meet you to shoot the pistol. I'm South San Francisco. Or you can always ask the range master to test it too.

[Packy14]

So, I have been shooting rifles and shotguns for 20 years or so but have just recently got into hanguns. I just got a Sig p239 9mm and have put about 500 rounds through thus far. I seem to be consistently shooting it 4" left @ 15 yards while my brother (who has shot handguns a lot longer than myself) is about 1" left.

Should I bite the bullet and get a sight adjuster to rectify the situation or do I try to change how I am shooting first?

I also have a .357 mag that I shoot dead-on at 25 yards and have never adjusted the sights.

It's a small gun and you are probably failing to balance forces on eat side if the gun well so you push to the left. It's not the gun, it's not the sights... It is you.

[Irv]

I wouldn't move the sights until you can shoot 1" to the left consistently like your brother.

[Whiterabbit]

If you are satisfied with the group size, the way you hold the gun, and your muscle memory, move the sights and never look back or question technique.

If you answered no to any of those, i'd work on those first since they can change your POI.

[nothingextra]

You adjust your sights to suit your needs when you feel like it.

It can be as easy as drifting them so centered off a rest is centered impact, or you may have to use a sight calculator to accommodate your preferred hold with your regularly scheduled load.

For instance, a 1911 shooter rolling his own 200gr 45acp + a smidge to make Major or a 4" 1911 shooter with a 180gr 40 may very well have factory installed sights with the same height when you measure them with a caliper. Both shooters may benefit from installing corrected sights, or they can just hold and Kentucky windage every shot from 25yds static.

I'm shooting a Glock 26 for GSSF.
I'm not used to the gun, the rear was drifted a bit to the right almost immediately.
After a case thru it, I'm locked in better and can drift it center as rds downrange work things out.

It's like suspension on a new motorcycle, it's not one size fits all.
I don't have a problem adjusting my sights as needed.
I also change my sights as my tastes change.
Hand tools are not hard to use properly, nor is a file and sanding block to fit an oversized sight.

[BB1776]

Both shooters may benefit from installing corrected sights, or they can just hold and Kentucky windage every shot from 25yds static.

Hehe. The whole reason I posted this thread was from frustration at having to aim off to the right in order to hit the center!

I go to Circle S on occasion! Let me know next time you are headed out!

[nothingextra]

Hehe. The whole reason I posted this thread was from frustration at having to aim off to the right in order to hit the center!

I go to Circle S on occasion! Let me know next time you are headed out!

I'm going to play hooky Thursday morning to 2pm.
I just feel like sitting on the 300yd berm before my meeting at 4pm.
Breathe and keep the group tight.
7.62 meditation before I have to discuss network security in SF.

Saturday mornings for the foreseeable 4 weekends I'm at Richmond.
GSSF is end of the month.
California Action Shotgun in a few weeks.
Trying to get practice time in bc I normally shoot Sigs, and only just getting my Benelli setup.

PM me whenever and we can make this happen.
I'll bring my 239 bc after GSSF I just want to shoot it for fun.
Might as well give it a once over since I just installed fiber optic sights.

[BB1776]

If you are satisfied with the group size, the way you hold the gun, and your muscle memory, move the sights and never look back or question technique.

If you answered no to any of those, i'd work on those first since they can change your POI.

My group size is pretty fair (for me), it is just way left. I bought the gun because it fit my hand so naturally, much more so than any other semi-auto I have held. I don't think I have had it long enough to develop much muscle memory with it yet, though, so I think I need to work on that a bit.

[nothingextra]

My group size is pretty fair (for me), it is just way left. I bought the gun because it fit my hand so naturally, much more so than any other semi-auto I have held. I don't think I have had it long enough to develop much muscle memory with it yet, though, so I think I need to work on that a bit.

It's setting up a deer rifle for Virginia for a hunt in Utah.

Setup should change to produce best performance for right now, not later.

If the OP starts with 115gr Blazer, decides to shoot IDPA with 147gr powderpuff, his rear sight height will change. If he slaps in a mag of 124gr +p Gold Dot for his house, do you worry about holdover or just that windage is zeroed for the shooter?

He can always change back later, or go on to something else as conditions change.

I wish everyone still drove carbureted cars with points distributors.
You change your curve and tune to suit what you are doing.

[Whiterabbit]

My group size is pretty fair (for me), it is just way left. I bought the gun because it fit my hand so naturally, much more so than any other semi-auto I have held. I don't think I have had it long enough to develop much muscle memory with it yet, though, so I think I need to work on that a bit.

Cool, so drift the sight over and don't worry about it.

If it's really your shooting, like flinch or anticipating etc, then one day, next week, next month, next year, or next decade, it'll shoot 4 inches right and you can drift the sight back.

better to develop muscle memory for aiming at bull than shooting with kentucky windage and who knows what's going on.

[nothingextra]

Cool, so drift the sight over and don't worry about it.

If it's really your shooting, like flinch or anticipating etc, then one day, next week, next month, next year, or next decade, it'll shoot 4 inches right and you can drift the sight back.

better to develop muscle memory for aiming at bull than shooting with kentucky windage and who knows what's going on.

Exactly, it will come with time.
Execute your fundamentals consistently, and things just have to work themselves out.
People need to be rewarded along the way, you don't learn just by eating pain with no gain.

Last week a guy was having a bad time with a couple service size doublestack 9mm's.
One was a high dollar off roster job, the other was more common.

I had my 239 with me, only singlestack that's been in my bag lately, and let him shoot it.
I knew full well he was a new shooter on the 25yd line.
My suggestion was not to work on everything at the same time.

A box later and his confidence is built up bc at least a couple things in theory are working out.
This guy had $2k worth of new stuff in front of him barely hitting paper.
Getting a little skinnier gun into his hand for 30mins was all the "aha moment" he needed.