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  • #16
    sigfan91
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2009
    • 12193

    Originally posted by bblr
    The P225-A1 uses a P239 barrel, which is 3.6" long. The P225/P6 has a 3.9" barrel.
    Really? Does that mean the new P225-A1 is more like a reshaped P239 rather than an updated P225?

    Is the frame shorter? Is the slide shorter? It'll be interesting to see them side by side.

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    • #17
      sigfan91
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2009
      • 12193

      Originally posted by SanDiegoMan
      From the listing "because we are neither competent nor gunsmiths"
      I saw that. I like self deprecating humor.

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      • #18
        dekul34
        Member
        • Aug 2016
        • 155

        looks like they have simunition trainer versions for $140 more, considering the replacement breech block for this one is $100 alone that's not a bad deal, a functional product rather than a solid barrel and breech block you'll throw away.

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        • #19
          sigfan91
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2009
          • 12193

          Originally posted by dekul34
          looks like they have simunition trainer versions for $140 more, considering the replacement breech block for this one is $100 alone that's not a bad deal, a functional product rather than a solid barrel and breech block you'll throw away.
          Where did you see that?

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          • #20
            dekul34
            Member
            • Aug 2016
            • 155

            Originally posted by sigfan91
            Where did you see that?
            Another listing from same seller on gunbroker... they have more of the simunition conversions in stock than the demilled training guns.

            edit: I guess HAD may be the better word, they had over 20 in stock when i looked yesterday but now the listing is gone...
            Last edited by dekul34; 08-12-2016, 12:03 PM.

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            • #21
              bblr
              Member
              • May 2014
              • 309

              Originally posted by sigfan91
              Really? Does that mean the new P225-A1 is more like a reshaped P239 rather than an updated P225?
              Yes, it's basically a P239. Here's the P239 parts I know of that are used in the P225-A1: barrel, trigger, hammer, decocker, slide catch, magazine (except baseplate), trigger bar. It most likely uses all the internal parts, but I can't confirm it.
              My LTC's: CAAZNV

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              • #22
                dekul34
                Member
                • Aug 2016
                • 155

                Originally posted by bblr
                Yes, it's basically a P239. Here's the P239 parts I know of that are used in the P225-A1: barrel, trigger, hammer, decocker, slide catch, magazine (except baseplate), trigger bar. It most likely uses all the internal parts, but I can't confirm it.
                Ah, so it's like the M11-A1 which is built on new P229 parts instead of retooling the old P228 design...

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                • #23
                  Shrubmaster
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1359

                  Originally posted by dekul34
                  looks like they have simunition trainer versions for $140 more, considering the replacement breech block for this one is $100 alone that's not a bad deal, a functional product rather than a solid barrel and breech block you'll throw away.
                  Thinking you're right, the firing pin channel is filled on some of these trainers.
                  WTB: Marlin 989 M2 stock (uncracked), and 989 M2 rifles
                  Thanks

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                  • #24
                    Varg Vikernes
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 2831

                    The P6 trainer I got was one that was the breach cut 45 degree and no firing pin or extractor. Everything else seemed right. Barrel was plugged and holes drilled in.

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                    • #25
                      Shrubmaster
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1359

                      Originally posted by Varg Vikernes
                      The P6 trainer I got was one that was the breach cut 45 degree and no firing pin or extractor. Everything else seemed right. Barrel was plugged and holes drilled in.
                      What about the area where the hammer hits the firing pin?
                      WTB: Marlin 989 M2 stock (uncracked), and 989 M2 rifles
                      Thanks

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                      • #26
                        Varg Vikernes
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 2831

                        Originally posted by Shrubmaster
                        What about the area where the hammer hits the firing pin?
                        The breach block was empty(at least didn't have a firing pin). Didn't check to see if it was brazed like another guy had though.

                        edit: holy crap didn't realize extractors were so hard to find too.

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                        • #27
                          Shrubmaster
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1359

                          Imo, that's still a wicked good buy. I'll be getting one. I don't care how long the parts take to source (that's half the fun!), I have other toys I can play with in the mean time.

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                          WTB: Marlin 989 M2 stock (uncracked), and 989 M2 rifles
                          Thanks

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                          • #28
                            Varg Vikernes
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 2831

                            I thought I read wrong when I saw an extractor on Ebay for $100+

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                            • #29
                              Varg Vikernes
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2831

                              Originally posted by Shrubmaster
                              Imo, that's still a wicked good buy. I'll be getting one. I don't care how long the parts take to source (that's half the fun!), I have other toys I can play with in the mean time.

                              Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
                              A member tipped me off on a source on extractors:



                              Not a bad price really. Also you can send him a P226 barrel to convert.

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                              • #30
                                sigfan91
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 12193

                                Originally posted by bblr
                                Yes, it's basically a P239. Here's the P239 parts I know of that are used in the P225-A1: barrel, trigger, hammer, decocker, slide catch, magazine (except baseplate), trigger bar. It most likely uses all the internal parts, but I can't confirm it.
                                Wow, I went to Sig website and took a closer look at the new P225-A1. It looks like a P239 now that I know what I am looking for.

                                Kinda disappointing. It's a cheap knockoff of a classic Sig. And one model even dared to use the word "classic" in its name. I'll take a P225 over the new P225-A1 any day. I'll take a P6 over the P225-A1.

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