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  • Gary O
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 933

    Ruger P-85 magazines?

    A family member has an old Ruger P-85 semi auto pistol that he would like to locate some Kali compliant 10 round magazines for. Any suggestions? Or could he convert his 15 rounders down to 10 rounders? What say you? Thanks...
    Gary

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    ojisan
    Agent 86
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2008
    • 11756

    Ruger never made 10 round mags for the P85.
    There is an exemption in the new mag law for older guns that do not have 10 rounders available from the gun maker.
    Later P89, P93 etc 10 round mags won't work.

    So, you can continue to use your original 15s or you can block the 15s to 10s.

    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
    I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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    • #3
      Carcassonne
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 4897

      How many 10+ magazines can you have for a specific gun?
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      • #4
        dfletcher
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Dec 2006
        • 14787

        Originally posted by ojisan
        Ruger never made 10 round mags for the P85.
        There is an exemption in the new mag law for older guns that do not have 10 rounders available from the gun maker.
        Later P89, P93 etc 10 round mags won't work.

        So, you can continue to use your original 15s or you can block the 15s to 10s.
        Midway advertises Ruger factory 10 rounders but lists them as "out of stock" and shows MecGar brand Ruger P85, P89s under the same listing. I don't know if "out of stock" means gone forever, no longer made and although I have a P89 don't know for certain if they're interchangeable with P85.

        Numrich lists a fair number of 10 round mags for the P85.

        I'm not sure where this whole "no 10 rounders available" puts us, exactly what it means. I have a 1918 BAR and I think only Ohio Ordnance makes 10 rounders ..... for $100.00 each.
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        • #5
          crufflers
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          • Jul 2011
          • 12723

          Greg Cote LLC Ruger P85 - P89 - P93 - P94 - P95- Original PC9 Police Carbine 1996-2006 (Does Not Fit The New Ruger PC Carbine) 10 RD 9mm blued Mec-Gar MGRP8510B [MGRP8510B] - Ruger P85 P89 P93 P94 P95 PC9 9MM - 10 round Mec-Gar magazine with a blued finish MGRP8510B. These fit the original style Ruger (Police Carbine) PC9 that takes the Ruger P Series magazines. They don't fit the new Ruger PC Carbine. They are extended magazines in the original style Ruger PC9.Compatible Firearms: RUGER P85, P89, P93,




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          • #6
            orangeusa
            • Jul 2009
            • 9055

            Greg Cote GTG. Nice links above.

            For some reason, the Ruger P series mags have always been pricey.

            .

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              BigPimping
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              • Feb 2010
              • 21436

              P95 mags wont work?
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              • #8
                ojisan
                Agent 86
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2008
                • 11756

                shopruger.com

                Note the info on what fits and what does not.
                P85 and early P89 15 round only....serial number range is shown.
                No ten rounders were even made back then.
                The P85 was released in 1987, long before ten round mags were even on the radar (started with the 1994 Fed AW Ban).


                There is no requirement go find non-original, off brand or might-fit magazines that might or might not work or cause a safety problem.

                The only magazines that you know for sure that are compatible with the gun are those supplied by the maker of the gun.

                SB1446
                32406. Subdivisions (b) and (c) of Section 32310 do not apply to the following:

                (f) A person lawfully in possession of a firearm that the person obtained prior to January 1, 2000, if no magazine that holds 10 or fewer rounds of ammunition is compatible with that firearm and the person possesses the large-capacity magazine solely for use with that firearm.

                Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                • #9
                  ojisan
                  Agent 86
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 11756

                  Here's a few that probably fall under this exemption.
                  I'm thumbing through a 1985 Gun Digest...

                  Astra A80
                  Beretta 81 / 85
                  Bersa 22S
                  Browning BDA380
                  FIE TZ75
                  H&K VP70Z
                  H&K P7M13
                  Llama Omni
                  Mab P15
                  S&W 469 (and possibly the 59 series)
                  Star 28
                  Steyr GB
                  Targa GT32 & 380
                  Taurus PT92/99 w / heel mag catch (Some early Beretta 92s as well?)

                  There are many more.
                  Not to mention all the other "Wonder 9" models that came out over the next few years.
                  Not all survived for long and nobody ever went back and made 10 rounders for them.


                  Of course, you should double check 10-round availability (or not) for your exact gun and always weigh the risks.

                  You can always block to ten rounds if you are not sure.

                  Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                  I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                  • #10
                    Buster Curtis
                    Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 121

                    I can tell you from experience, if you go the eBay route, DO NOT buy from the following seller, or anyone offering similar no-name mags as the following link:



                    The rounds bind up in the mag after the 3rd round and will not feed. I returned them for a refund and went with Mec-Gar and never looked back. The Mec-Gar mags are excellent as always, and functioned flawlessly in my P-series.

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                    • #11
                      CaliforniaLiberal
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                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 4690

                      Originally posted by Gary O
                      A family member has an old Ruger P-85 semi auto pistol that he would like to locate some Kali compliant 10 round magazines for. Any suggestions? Or could he convert his 15 rounders down to 10 rounders? What say you? Thanks...

                      P85 magazines changed along with the magazine wells partway through the P85 manufacture.

                      Gun Serial # 304-69999 and lower 10 round magazines # P15/10 blued and # KP15/10 stainless fit P85, P85 Mk II and P89 in this lower serial number range

                      Gun Serial # 304-70000 and above 10 round magazines # P18/10 blued and # KP18/10 stainless, fit P85 and P89 in this higher serial number range, as well as P93, P94, P95 and PC9


                      I have one Ruger branded # KP15/10 suitable for the early, lower Serial # range and I have no use for it. PM me if you would like to buy it, we can set a reasonable price. Not a great demand for these.
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                      • #12
                        jdigi101
                        Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 415

                        Midway has Mec-Gar 10 rounders "Out of Stock, Backorder OK":



                        Great mags at a good price.

                        I have used this option before and always received my items eventually.

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                        • #13
                          dfletcher
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14787

                          Originally posted by ojisan
                          shopruger.com

                          Note the info on what fits and what does not.
                          P85 and early P89 15 round only....serial number range is shown.
                          No ten rounders were even made back then.
                          The P85 was released in 1987, long before ten round mags were even on the radar (started with the 1994 Fed AW Ban).


                          There is no requirement go find non-original, off brand or might-fit magazines that might or might not work or cause a safety problem.

                          The only magazines that you know for sure that are compatible with the gun are those supplied by the maker of the gun.

                          SB1446
                          32406. Subdivisions (b) and (c) of Section 32310 do not apply to the following:

                          (f) A person lawfully in possession of a firearm that the person obtained prior to January 1, 2000, if no magazine that holds 10 or fewer rounds of ammunition is compatible with that firearm and the person possesses the large-capacity magazine solely for use with that firearm.


                          The "compatible with" is what concerns me, and exactly how much effort are we supposed to take tracking them down. Original or even caliber specific magazines for my old EAA TZ 90 in 41 AE don't exist, but it also (so I'm told ....) uses 40 S & W mags.
                          GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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                          • #14
                            ojisan
                            Agent 86
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 11756

                            Shopruger.com
                            Following searches and results:

                            P85 10 round magazine: No Products Found
                            KP15/10: No Products Found
                            P15/10: No Products Found

                            Ruger may have made some back when.
                            But they are not available now.
                            Now is all that matters.

                            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                            I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                            • #15
                              Rumpled
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1636

                              I'll have to keep tabs on this. I have a relatively older P85 and can always use more mags. Not sure if it is in that earliest range. Over the years I have bought various mags for it. Never knew there were different versions. Will have to check on the ones I have.

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