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  • ap3572001
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 6039

    Nighthawk bobtail 9mm Talon2 9mm

    Anyone is having problems with Nighthawks in 9mm? I mostly tried my duty ammo in it. 9 and 10 round quality magazines. Tried NATO ball. Slide would lock back in the middle of magazine. What is brake in time for Nighthawks? Appreciate any help.
  • #2
    SVTNate
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 1418

    Welcome to 9mm 1911's.

    NHC has no break-in time. They are built properly, and thus should run from the factory. You have an issue.

    Mags and springs are common issues with the 9mm guns. Talk to NHC next week and they should have a recommendation. Sometimes you need to get the right combination of spring weights for your gun and ammo choices, then once you are dialed in it'll be fine.

    I had a full size Wilson CQB in 9mm, and I had to change out the recoil spring for a lighter weight spring. It ran great after that. Wilson Combat was able to get me squared away without sending them the gun.

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    • #3
      bwhited
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 1947

      This does not sound like a break in issue.
      The slide stop is not properly fit for the ammo type being used.
      If you can find a semi wadcutter type of bullet, it may work.

      What is happening is that the nose of the bullet is hitting the slide stop causing the slide stop being pushed up.

      Take out the slide stop and you may be able to see where the bullet is hitting it.

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      • #4
        SVTNate
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 1418

        I'll also mention that you picked the right size 1911 for a 9mm build.

        9mm runs more reliably in a Commander. Lower weight slide, easier to set up springs for proper dwell time than in a full size. I was told that by a Wilson Combat gunsmith (after my full size 9mm was delivered, lol)

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        • #5
          Roddd
          Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 348

          I have two Nighthawks, both in 45 ACP. One of them hated most ammo brands. I started shooting Federal American Eagle and it gobbles it right up without any issue. I think the American Eagle ammo is more consistent in its size, whereas the other stuff I was shooting had slightly different seating depths, which can throw these tight-fitted guns for quite the loop.

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          • #6
            heidad01
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 4902

            Ate you sure you are not hitting the slide stop while shooting??
            I have never had problems with 1911s that were because of the mag or ammo. Of course i do not shoot anything but Nato ammo either.
            Kind of strange for a 3k plus custom made 1911 to have this kind of issue. I'd send it to NH to take care of what ever problem.

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            • #7
              ap3572001
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 6039

              I use very high hold. It is possible I am hitting slide stop.

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              • #8
                Bill Steele
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 5028

                It is pretty easy to eliminate the hand issue. You can change your hold or shoot it one handed with your weak hand. If it still locks back before the magazine is empty the nose of the bullet is hitting the slide stop during feed.

                It could be a magazine issue, or the inside of the slide stop needs to be reprofiled/relieved so the bullet misses it when feeding.
                When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                • #9
                  ap3572001
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 6039

                  Originally posted by Bill Steele
                  It is pretty easy to eliminate the hand issue. You can change your hold or shoot it one handed with your weak hand. If it still locks back before the magazine is empty the nose of the bullet is hitting the slide stop during feed.

                  It could be a magazine issue, or the inside of the slide stop needs to be reprofiled/relieved so the bullet misses it when feeding.
                  What are the very best 9mm single stack 1911 magazines?

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                  • #10
                    Bill Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5028

                    Originally posted by ap3572001
                    What are the very best 9mm single stack 1911 magazines?
                    The only problems I have ever had with any 9mm 1911 magazines I have owned were Kimber brand (not sure who makes them for them). I favor Tripp for all my 1911 magazines, but frankly, Wilson, Metalform, etc., etc. all have worked flawlessly in all the 9mm 1911's I have owned. A couple of my 9mm 1911's have been ridden extremely hard and put out wet, mags dropped repeatedly in the dirt each day of use without cleaning, never a problem.
                    Last edited by Bill Steele; 07-04-2016, 11:23 AM.
                    When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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