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  • pennstater
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 4660

    Grandfathered?

    Question for you fellas. Friend of mine just moved here from Idaho[job related]. He is trying to find out if his pistol, magazine actually, is legal here.
    It is Tauras PT-99 AF 9mm with a 15 round magazine. Bought new in Ca. 1988. Is that legal? Or does he need to buy lower capacity mag? Thanks guys.
  • #2
    Dano3467
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2013
    • 7381

    My take here is NO, with exception to LEO.

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    • #3
      glockman19
      Banned
      • Jun 2007
      • 10486

      Your friend re-imported a large capacity magazine within the law. In CA 10 round magazines are the limit...unless in the state prior to January 2000. OP bought the gun in CA in 1988, prior to 1/1/2000.
      Last edited by glockman19; 06-24-2016, 8:51 AM.

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      • #4
        Canucky
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 4265

        I believe he would be importing standard capacity mags. No go.

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        • #5
          jimbo74
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2014
          • 2923

          Originally posted by Canucky
          I believe he would be importing standard capacity mags. No go.
          don't you mean high capacity?
          "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

          CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
          ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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          • #6
            Tovarish
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 1615

            Wrong answers. If he bought it new in California before the ban it is legal, even if he left the state. He's fine.

            Until and unless the new law gets signed.

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            • #7
              Canucky
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 4265

              Originally posted by jimbo74
              don't you mean high capacity?
              No their standard. Neutered ten rounders apply to us in California.

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              • #8
                SlickmisterN
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1025

                Originally posted by jimbo74
                don't you mean high capacity?
                Nope standard capacity. What the gun originally was designed to accomodate and feed from...

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                • #9
                  nvicta
                  Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 479

                  Reimporting of preowned 2000 standard caps is allowed:




                  32420. Section 32310 does not apply to the importation of a
                  large-capacity magazine by a person who lawfully possessed the
                  large-capacity magazine in the state prior to January 1, 2000,
                  lawfully took it out of the state, and is returning to the state with
                  the same large-capacity magazine.
                  Last edited by nvicta; 06-24-2016, 4:54 PM.
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                  http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=728981

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                  • #10
                    Tovarish
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 1615

                    Read the law, guys. It specifically addresses this.

                    32420. Section 32310 does not apply to the importation of a large-capacity magazine by a person who lawfully possessed the
                    large-capacity magazine in the state prior to January 1, 2000, lawfully took it out of the state, and is returning to the state with the same large-capacity magazine.

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                    • #11
                      Kwikvette
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 3704

                      Originally posted by jimbo74
                      don't you mean high capacity?
                      You're misinformed; a magazine limited to 10-rounds whereas in other states has a higher capacity is actually a "standard" magazine.

                      We Californians can't own magazines that hold more than 10 rounds unless grandfathered or LEO.
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                      • #12
                        MaHoTex
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 5002

                        Originally posted by Tovarish
                        Read the law, guys. It specifically addresses this.
                        Tovarish has it right. It is perfectly legal to bring it back into California.
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                        • #13
                          Canucky
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 4265

                          Sorry I should have read the post more clearly. being purchased in Ca.

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                          • #14
                            Citadelgrad87
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 16916

                            Originally posted by Canucky
                            No their standard. Neutered ten rounders apply to us in California.
                            Originally posted by SlickmisterN
                            Nope standard capacity. What the gun originally was designed to accomodate and feed from...
                            Originally posted by Kwikvette
                            You're misinformed; a magazine limited to 10-rounds whereas in other states has a higher capacity is actually a "standard" magazine.

                            We Californians can't own magazines that hold more than 10 rounds unless grandfathered or LEO.
                            Nope, they are statutorily defined as large capacity magazines. We are talking about california state law prohibitions, and thats what that lae falls them.
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                            • #15
                              jcwatchdog
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2603

                              Originally posted by nvicta
                              It would have been grandfathered if it had never left the state, but once they leave legally they cannot come back, even as "rebuild kits" And then there are proposed bills attempting to make grandfathered items illegal as well...not awesome.
                              So if you have a pre ban mag, bring it to Nevada to shoot and then come back it's illegal? I don't think that sounds right.

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