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  • fritztkatt
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 1061

    1911: 2pc guide rod into 1pc?

    So I got my Springfield out of jail today (used, roll mark is "1911-A1", but looks like a loaded), and started to clean the upper. As we all know, using an Allen key to field strip a gun is (poor taste night club joke)...

    My little mastermind saw a loophole that costs me nothing... leave the second piece of guide rod off. Assemble the gun as a GI, and carry on with life. I racked the slide and dry fired it quite a bit, no issues.

    I can see two issues with this. 1) the open recoil spring plug will allow excess debris to collect. 2) the stub is not camfered and may cause binding in use.

    I'll probably install a proper spring plug, as I'm not concerned with having a FLGR, and because it's so cheap, a GI guide rod, because of the two problems I forsee happening with this. But I suppose that defeats the purpose of this thought experiment.

    What say you, calguns?
    Last edited by fritztkatt; 06-14-2016, 10:47 PM. Reason: Comments on model/style
  • #2
    wl518
    Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 372

    Just get a GI guide rod. Its relatively inexpensive on midway or brownells. Out of sight, out of mind.

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    • #3
      fritztkatt
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2015
      • 1061

      That was part of the OP, I was trying to do a thought experiment here.

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      • #4
        JTROKS
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2007
        • 13093

        If FLRG or GI guide rod doesn't really matter to you. My advise is to shorten the stock FLRG just enough to facilitate standard disassembly. Loctite or JB Weld the FLRG to prevent from rotating.
        The wise man said just find your place
        In the eye of the storm
        Seek the roses along the way
        Just beware of the thorns...
        K. Meine

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        • #5
          NoHeavyHitter
          Banned
          • Jul 2011
          • 2876

          Using a "guide-rod" style recoil assembly in a 1911 is little more than an attempt to fix a problem that doesn't exist..

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          • #6
            357magnum
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 1219

            I have a Wilson Combat 1pc guide rod in my SA 1911 Loaded, no tools needed to field strip it.
            sigpic"Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me."
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            • #7
              Napalm Bulldog
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 4266

              Originally posted by 357magnum
              I have a Wilson Combat 1pc guide rod in my SA 1911 Loaded, no tools needed to field strip it.
              How do you like it and how has it functioned thru how many rounds?

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              • #8
                MosinVirus
                Happily Infected
                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2013
                • 5282

                Sounds like you have a plan. If GI setup is what you are after, just get GI guide rod and plug. You can even get the SA ones if you so desire. Don't try to fake it with an open plug. It will be painful to depress with your finger
                Hobbies: bla, bla, bla... Bought a Mosin Nagant... Guns, Guns, Guns...

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                • #9
                  Seaweed02
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1650

                  Me too

                  Originally posted by 357magnum
                  I have a Wilson Combat 1pc guide rod in my SA 1911 Loaded, no tools needed to field strip it.
                  Me too. I bought the Wilson Combat flat wire recoil spring, the plug that goes with it since it is a different size, and one piece guide rod. Wasn't expensive at all and now I don't need any tools to field strip the weapon.

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                  • #10
                    357magnum
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 1219

                    Originally posted by Napalm Bulldog
                    How do you like it and how has it functioned thru how many rounds?
                    I have had this setup since 2002 and several thousand rounds fired in IDPA matches. Never a problem or malfunction.
                    By the way, my SA 1911 is 9mm.
                    sigpic"Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me."
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                    • #11
                      Lead Waster
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 16650

                      I've heard, but have never tried, that you can actually use a spend .45 case as a plug. Not sure if can properly keep the bushing from turning, but maybe it was just a case of ... if you really really had to, you could do it.
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                      • #12
                        Lead Waster
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 16650

                        ... oh yeah, a GI plug is $10. Just get one.
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                        Remember to dial 1 before 911.

                        Forget about stopping power. If you can't hit it, you can't stop it.

                        There. Are. Four. Lights!

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                        • #13
                          DArBad
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 3002

                          Push comes to shove, I prefer the One Piece Full length guide rod on a full size 1911. I can discern smoother cycling which I like, and on a looser 1911 like a Colt, it marginally tightens things a bit.

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                          • #14
                            Sonic_mike
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 3483

                            Originally posted by 357magnum
                            I have a Wilson Combat 1pc guide rod in my SA 1911 Loaded, no tools needed to field strip it.
                            Here too after I noticed my 2pc flgr start to back off. Guesstimate about 600 rounds with new flgr and 0 problems.

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                            • #15
                              fritztkatt
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 1061

                              Yall missed the point, but it's all good. I'm still going to convert to standard parts, like I suggested in the op.

                              Going to get a lo-pro magwell/msh to delete the stupid lock type msh.

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