Why is 40 considered an "in-between" round?

[Red-Osier]

Captains of Crush.

http://www.ironmind.com/product-info...rush-grippers/

Thank's

[Ralston]

Captains of Crush.



http://www.ironmind.com/product-info...rush-grippers/

I love the COC grippers. Carry 5 of them in my gear bag on my car seat. Bombproof challenging grippers.

[lcw]

Lately I've been browsing the market place section a bit, 40 cal has the hardest time to sell. Most people want 45 or 9. Just a reminder for anyone when buying a 40 cal.

[osis32]

Good thing smart people don't sell

[23 Blast]

I avoided .40 for a long time. It just felt like an oddball caliber to me, and all of my auto pistols were either 9mm or .45acp. Well, I did have a Makarov that was 9x18, but in Soviet Russia, caliber choose you!

What sort of got me on the .40 bandwagon was the ammo panic of about 3-4 years ago where it seemed like ANY ammo, at ANY price, was virtually unavailable. Except - it seemed, .40S&W, and .270Rem. I very nearly bought a .270 rifle for exactly that reason, until I realized I could probably outfit a platoon of Soviet motor-rifle infantry with the stockpile of 7.62x54 I already had.

So I now own a Glock 22, but mostly shoot it with the LW 40-9 conversion barrel. I love the idea of having two guns in one, which greatly widens ammo availability options.

As far as shooting .40 - it IS "snappier" (harder recoiling, greater blast and flash) than seemingly both 9mm and .45, but in a G22, it's still incredibly tame. For excitement, shoot a .357 snubbie

[Mossy Man]

CCWing any compact .40s&w is like DDing a manual trans. 3/4 ton diesel pickup in metro traffic.

You can do it if you are skilled and patient, but why would you want to?

[Jimmybacon43]

2nd week of owning my first gun, the Glock 22. And as the OP, I did choose 40 since I understood it to be the middle ground.

As per another thread, I described that even after 3 indoor range days with the G22, I get to get tighter and precise groups the FIRST time with a rental 9mm XD9 and PX4. Would I be going to a 9mm? Yeah, I may - if, say would like to compete amateur in the GSSF or something...

But I'll probably stick with the G22 and further develop my technique. At least for now, seeing the 40 as a "teaching caliber." *My few cents' worth*


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You can always buy a conversion 9mm barrel for your glock if you want to shoot 9

[Monster]

I got a brand new XD 40 for $370 on a PPT I truly believe the guy was afraid to shoot it.

[Nate]

CCWing any compact .40s&w is like DDing a manual trans. 3/4 ton diesel pickup in metro traffic.

You can do it if you are skilled and patient, but why would you want to?

If your skilled and patient, why wouldn't you.

If you can't handle the snappiness of a .40, shoot a 9mm, .380 .22lr or whatever you can put on target.

If you can't drive a stick, or diesel truck in metro traffic, have your wife drive you to work. You probably shouldn't be driving.

[Mossy Man]

If your skilled and patient, why wouldn't you.

If you can't handle the snappiness of a .40, shoot a 9mm, .380 .22lr or whatever you can put on target.

If you can't drive a stick, or diesel truck in metro traffic, have your wife drive you to work. You probably shouldn't be driving.

you have completely missed the point.

But more power to you, since it appears caliber == length

[Lonestargrizzly]

I got a brand new XD 40 for $370 on a PPT I truly believe the guy was afraid to shoot it.

Lol I bought one off a calgunner for $350 with over $100 of defensive ammo and then sold it to my stepdad for the same $350 I bought it for hehe.

[bighead]

.40 is the transgender of the handgun ammo.

[Germ1]

I think most people are idiots and don't know the history or where the .40cal came from. It's literally a shortened 10mm. A collaboration between the FBI and S&W. It is NOT a "middle ground" caliber, it has nothing to do with either 9mm or .45acp. It was made because FBI agents couldn't handle 10mm, so what they were doing was reloading weak loads. Enter S&W, they said screw that, we will just shorten the case and make a new caliber. 40 short & weak was born. .40cal doesn't exist far as I'm concerned, most worthless caliber available. It destroys guns, and has no ballistical advantage over modern 9mm ammunition. It is all negatives and no positives, higher recoil, less capacity, less reliability and more wear.

Here's the only pistol calibers that exist, 9mm and .45acp. And there's no reason to choose anything but 9mm. Specially with modern Ammunition. Higher capacity, less recoil , cheaper ammo, and 9mm out performs .45acp according to FBI reports.

https://concealednation.org/2014/10/fbi-decides-on-9mm-as-their-1-choice-and-have-tons-of-science-behind-their-decision/

.40cal performance, man shot 17 times and none of the bullets penetrate more than an inch.

http://www.defensivecarry.com/documents/officer.pdf

Why you need more than 7 rounds. There was a good video on this recently on badgecams, but I'm not about to go looking for it. (police is engaged and shot, breaks his hip during traffic stop. He returns fire with his 7+1 .45acp, misses every shot. Does a reload and the gun jams, shooter runs away.)

http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2008/12/29/if-cops-cant-hit-in-a-gunfight-how-good-are-you-going-to-be/

[Mayor McRifle]

I think most people are idiots and don't know the history or where the .40cal came from. It's literally a shortened 10mm. A collaboration between the FBI and S&W. It is NOT a "middle ground" caliber, it has nothing to do with either 9mm or .45acp. It was made because FBI agents couldn't handle 10mm, so what they were doing was reloading weak loads. Enter S&W, they said screw that, we will just shorten the case and make a new caliber. 40 short & weak was born. .40cal doesn't exist far as I'm concerned, most worthless caliber available. It destroys guns, and has no ballistical advantage over modern 9mm ammunition. It is all negatives and no positives, higher recoil, less capacity, less reliability and more wear.

Here's the only pistol calibers that exist, 9mm and .45acp. And there's no reason to choose anything but 9mm. Specially with modern Ammunition. Higher capacity, less recoil , cheaper ammo, and 9mm out performs .45acp according to FBI reports.

https://concealednation.org/2014/10/fbi-decides-on-9mm-as-their-1-choice-and-have-tons-of-science-behind-their-decision/

.40cal performance, man shot 17 times and none of the bullets penetrate more than an inch.

http://www.defensivecarry.com/documents/officer.pdf

Why you need more than 7 rounds. There was a good video on this recently on badgecams, but I'm not about to go looking for it. (police is engaged and shot, breaks his hip during traffic stop. He returns fire with his 7+1 .45acp, misses every shot. Does a reload and the gun jams, shooter runs away.)
http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sig...u-going-to-be/

Have you tried strengthening your grip? If you learn to control the gun, you'll probably change your mind about .40.

[Cool Custard]

you have completely missed the point.

But more power to you, since it appears caliber == length

I don't understand why people do this?!?! You drive a bigger/car truck than me or you shoot/carry a bigger caliber than me, you must be compensating for something? Or maybe everyone is different and likes different things? I drive a truck, carry a .40 or .45 daily and it has nothing to do with the size of my dick.