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  • Johnny.23
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 70

    1911 Trigger Issue?

    Hi everyone!

    I picked up a Springfield Mil Spec 1911 in 45 acp, I've put about 200 rounds through it, not sure but I think there is something funky with the trigger possibly.

    Its a mil spec style trigger and not a skeletonized trigger, the trigger when I pull back with my finger seems to be loose. It's hard to explain, its not the internal assembly but the outside part of the trigger, the part that your finger touches. It feels a little loose, I have a skeletonized 1911 and the trigger feel more sturdy on my finger as a I pull back and release the trigger. The Mil Spec trigger once I let go kind of drops a little and touches the trigger guard and seems loose. Is this normal?

    I can still drop the hammer and cock it. Is this an issue that I need a gunsmith?

    Thanks! Sorry I'm really new to 1911's!
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    MosinVirus
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    • Sep 2013
    • 5282

    Without pulling the trigger to the back, grasp it with your fingers and try to move it up and down, side to side. There may simply be a bit of play between the trigger pad and frame. It will not hurt anything but you trigger will not feel consistent. You could replace it with a new one but that one will need to be fitted to the frame so that you don't get that play.
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    • #3
      Johnny.23
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 70

      Originally posted by MosinVirus
      Without pulling the trigger to the back, grasp it with your fingers and try to move it up and down, side to side. There may simply be a bit of play between the trigger pad and frame. It will not hurt anything but you trigger will not feel consistent. You could replace it with a new one but that one will need to be fitted to the frame so that you don't get that play.
      Yeah, it feels like there is some play between the trigger and frame, it moves a little, is that normal? I know mil spec triggers aren't as tight as skeletonized triggers. When I move it up and down the trigger touches the trigger guard and frame.

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      • #4
        Soginator
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 1696

        Originally posted by Johnny.23
        Hi everyone!

        I picked up a Springfield Mil Spec 1911 in 45 acp, I've put about 200 rounds through it, not sure but I think there is something funky with the trigger possibly.

        Its a mil spec style trigger and not a skeletonized trigger, the trigger when I pull back with my finger seems to be loose. It's hard to explain, its not the internal assembly but the outside part of the trigger, the part that your finger touches. It feels a little loose, I have a skeletonized 1911 and the trigger feel more sturdy on my finger as a I pull back and release the trigger. The Mil Spec trigger once I let go kind of drops a little and touches the trigger guard and seems loose. Is this normal?

        I can still drop the hammer and cock it. Is this an issue that I need a gunsmith?

        Thanks! Sorry I'm really new to 1911's!
        Springfield is pretty damn good about fixing a mistake with any of their guns. I'd give them a call and see what they have to say. If it is a mistake on their part, they cover it under warranty, including shipping.
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        • #5
          santamonica9
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          • Mar 2009
          • 1475

          Originally posted by Soginator
          Springfield is pretty damn good about fixing a mistake with any of their guns. I'd give them a call and see what they have to say. If it is a mistake on their part, they cover it under warranty, including shipping.
          agreed - customer service time
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          • #6
            MosinVirus
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            • Sep 2013
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            Yup, you can certainly send it back for them to address the issue. Though it may be normal play for mil spec.
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            • #7
              MosinVirus
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              • Sep 2013
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              ^^^ skeletonized or not, it is all about how they were fitted. The 1911 trigger pad is shortened on top and/or bottom surface to fit into the trigger pad slot in the frame. If top or bottom or both were filed/stoned a bit much, there will be a bit of play. So, you have one trigger that is fitted well and the other with a bit of slop.

              As I said before, it is not a huge problem, but if it bothers you, you could contact customer service, or take it to a Smith knowledgeable with 1911s (if customer service turns you away)

              My mil spec had some play too.
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              • #8
                Johnny.23
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 70

                Originally posted by MosinVirus
                ^^^ skeletonized or not, it is all about how they were fitted. The 1911 trigger pad is shortened on top and/or bottom surface to fit into the trigger pad slot in the frame. If top or bottom or both were filed/stoned a bit much, there will be a bit of play. So, you have one trigger that is fitted well and the other with a bit of slop.

                As I said before, it is not a huge problem, but if it bothers you, you could contact customer service, or take it to a Smith knowledgeable with 1911s (if customer service turns you away)

                My mil spec had some play too.
                Yea, the fitting seem to be loose and have some play, but the trigger still functions and still drops the hammer. So it is okay to use at the range? Sorry to ask so many questions, but I'm really new to 1911's hehe. Thanks!

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                • #9
                  MosinVirus
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                  • Sep 2013
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                  Originally posted by Johnny.23
                  Yea, the fitting seem to be loose and have some play, but the trigger still functions and still drops the hammer. So it is okay to use at the range? Sorry to ask so many questions, but I'm really new to 1911's hehe. Thanks!
                  I would say if it functions correctly, use it. Better yet, go to a local store and ask to see another one of that model. Grasp the trigger with your fingers and try to move up and down... See if it is the same, and then you will know for sure if you have something to send to customer service, or if you have exactly what you should have. Or get someone who knows 1911s to look at your pistol.
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                  • #10
                    LowThudd
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 3608

                    Sounds fine, and normal for a trigger without any pre travel and overtravel adjustment, that is loosely fitted. Perfectly safe, just up to you how much it bothers you.

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                    • #11
                      Johnny.23
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 70

                      Originally posted by MosinVirus
                      I would say if it functions correctly, use it. Better yet, go to a local store and ask to see another one of that model. Grasp the trigger with your fingers and try to move up and down... See if it is the same, and then you will know for sure if you have something to send to customer service, or if you have exactly what you should have.
                      Thanks! I'm actually picking up a sig Sp2022 on Monday from my local gun store they have a 1911 gunsmith on duty, I'll have him look at it to make sure. The mil spec trigger doesn't seem as nice as a skeletonized trigger, I had thought about upgrading the trigger to a skeletonized trigger. This 1911 was a birthday gift so it's kind of sentimental to me hehe. If I do decide to upgrade the trigger, I was thinking about getting night sights installed. But, I hear that many 1911 gunsmiths don't like changing out the front sight that is staked in; is it because it takes a lot of work to do? Thanks again I really appreciate your help!

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                      • #12
                        pd5190
                        Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 203

                        I just checked my Mil spec Springfield and while there is a little play in the trigger it does not do what you describe.

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                        • #13
                          Johnny.23
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 70

                          Originally posted by LowThudd
                          Sounds fine, and normal for a trigger without any pre travel and overtravel adjustment, that is loosely fitted. Perfectly safe, just up to you how much it bothers you.
                          Thanks! I wasn't sure if the slop on the trigger was there in the beggining, I only took to the range about 3 times and put 200 rounds though it. It makes a slight metal on metal tapping noise when it touches the trigger guard, but I can live with it if it safe to use hehe.

                          thanks for the info!

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                          • #14
                            Johnny.23
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 70

                            Originally posted by pd5190
                            I just checked my Mil spec Springfield and while there is a little play in the trigger it does not do what you describe.
                            Yea, thats what I thought, I have sigs, another 1911 with a skeletonized trigger, CZ's and a glocks. The slop on my Mil spec trigger seemed off and unsual. I'll be taking it to a smith to look at, at worse I can get a skeletonized trigger and make it nicer!

                            Thanks!
                            Last edited by Johnny.23; 05-12-2016, 10:47 PM.

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                            • #15
                              MosinVirus
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                              • Sep 2013
                              • 5282

                              Originally posted by Johnny.23
                              Thanks! I'm actually picking up a sig Sp2022 on Monday from my local gun store they have a 1911 gunsmith on duty, I'll have him look at it to make sure. The mil spec trigger doesn't seem as nice as a skeletonized trigger, I had thought about upgrading the trigger to a skeletonized trigger. This 1911 was a birthday gift so it's kind of sentimental to me hehe. If I do decide to upgrade the trigger, I was thinking about getting night sights installed. But, I hear that many 1911 gunsmiths don't like changing out the front sight that is staked in; is it because it takes a lot of work to do? Thanks again I really appreciate your help!
                              Again, it is not about the trigger being skeletonized or not. You could get a solid pad trigger in one gun that is fitted better than a skeletonized trigger in another. It is all about the fitting.

                              Staked on sights are a PIA. Are you also planning to upgrade the grip safety?

                              Here is a video of one 1911 gunsmith fitting a new trigger:

                              Last edited by MosinVirus; 05-13-2016, 2:02 AM.
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