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  • gunprofit
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 557

    Excellent 9mm Target Ammo

    From time to time, I see guys pose a "what's the best 9mm shoot ammo".

    Usually, I am disappointed by the responses. The criteria for lots of guys is that the ammo is CHEAP, and a few guys want the ammo to be CLEAN.

    I would like to share my criteria. I am a reloader and have been for most of my long life. But, from time to time, I need to buy ammo. Fortunately, there is a local independent gunshop near me that sells remanufactured ammo that they produce. Shotgun Johnny's, located in Manteca. The guy that does the ammo, has been reloading for over 40 years. He has owned ammo manufacturing companies, gun shops, etc. Now he is semi-retired but to keep busy he loads for the store.

    I recently bought their 9mm, 124 gr FMJ ammo. The cost for a 500 round bulk ammo can was $99. Upon shooting the ammo, I was immediately impressed with the accuracy. This is my top requirement for target ammo, for it to be capable of target accuracy. My 50 foot groups were under an inch out of my Browning Hi-Power.

    I would call the ammo clean. There was not the usual carbon soot on the cases. Which of course means that it was loaded with enough pressure to expand the cases and create a good seal. Causing all the burn to go down the barrel and not back toward the shooter.

    Next, I chronographed 25 rounds. The high velocity was 1114 fps with the low of 1107 fps. So for 25 rounds, the SD was 7 fps. Now I am really impressed.

    I returned to the store and talked to the reloader. He admitted to using Alliant BE86 powder. He didn't want to reveal the charge, so I pulled several bullets and found the load was 5.4grs. Again, there was no variance in powder charge. Every single one of them was right on the money.

    My criteria for target ammo was completely satisfied.

    Accuracy
    Cleanliness
    Consistent Velocity
    Reliability
    Fair Price

    For me, it was a good find. I really hate buying ammo at Walmart or any chain store for that matter. I would much rather buy ammo from a local independent dealer. You know, a guy who employs people. A guy who pays taxes that are kept locally. A guy who sells American products to Americans.

    I just had to share my wonderful experience. I'm not promoting anybody. I'm just pointing out that there are still good deals out there without resorting to buying based on price and it going bang from a big box store.

    Well, maybe I am promoting something. I guess I'm supporting buying from local gunshops that know your name when you walk in the door.

    Enough said.



    Last edited by gunprofit; 04-14-2016, 10:02 PM.
  • #2
    extra260
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 23

    I picked up 500 rounds @ the lodi gun show from their booth and its been great ammo. I will be buying more ! premium ammo for a great price

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    • #3
      jess1911
      Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 218

      Originally posted by HopetonBrown
      Is that supported or unsupported? If freestyle that's amazing.
      Agreed. That has more to do with shooting than ammo in my opinion.

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      • #4
        drunktank
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 5461

        Jeez, I couldn't shoot under an inch at 50 feet if the bullets were laser beams!

        WTB used AK MFER.

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        • #5
          fritztkatt
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 1061

          $198/case isn't beyond the average for bulk. Local (no shipping), and being accurate make that stuff a good deal though.

          I will shoot about anything brass cased and priced around $200/case. Usually ppu and blazer brass do me fine. Wolf and tula work just fine in my glock, so I'm not opposed to shooting them.

          Aluminum cases are fine in a pinch, but don't feed properly in my 1911. Never shot steel in it.

          Edit: those are nice groups if single handed. What do they look like at 25yd?
          Last edited by fritztkatt; 04-14-2016, 1:08 PM.

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          • #6
            BoJackUSMC
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2010
            • 7091

            Awesome shooting... really awesome...

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            • #7
              metalhead
              Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 444

              I am more impressed with your 50 feet target than the ammo themselves. Great shooting sir!

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              • #8
                hyperion.excal
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 1334

                Great ammo but know the cons of reloaded ammo.

                In the event your gun goes kaboom, the gun manufacturer will not fix/replace your gun so you are on your own. Unless the reloader has some sort of insurance then you can maybe ask them to fix/replace your gun.

                (I know sig sauer states that under warranty agreement that shooting reloads violates warranty).

                Usually the difference of reloaded ammo and brand new ammo is around $20.

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                • #9
                  Rhyme_merchant
                  Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 248

                  Nice to know. I bought some 38 special from them before but honestly don't know enough to tell the difference, at least on the level you're on. Good to know they make decent stuff.

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                  • #10
                    Red-Osier
                    Doesn't Abide
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 12284

                    Thank's for sharing. And, nice work.
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                    • #11
                      Germ1
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1165

                      Originally posted by drunktank
                      Jeez, I couldn't shoot under an inch at 50 feet if the bullets were laser beams!
                      There's no proof it was actually 50 feet.

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                      • #12
                        Musubi1000
                        Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 154

                        Originally posted by Germ1
                        There's no proof it was actually 50 feet.

                        Groups like that are totally doable. Good shooting.

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                        • #13
                          toiletfighter
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 3870

                          Good to know. I'm working near there, staying at the Manteca Holiday Inn across the street from that shop. I'll swing by and pick some up.
                          Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God

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                          • #14
                            gsparesa
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 918

                            Cool. I'll check them out the next time I go to Bass Pro. Your accuracy looks to be "spot-on". Was it performed offhand?

                            It's cool trying to figure out the recipe.
                            Recipe:
                            124gr FMJ
                            5.4gr Alliant BE86 Powder

                            That's 0.4gr less than what Alliant suggests.

                            What brand cases? That should be easy to find on the case head.
                            What SPP primers? (Federal SSP #100/Winchester WSP /CCI SPP #500)

                            Oh, and thanks for the tip!

                            One more question, what gun were you using?
                            Last edited by gsparesa; 04-14-2016, 3:41 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Daddyman22
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 502

                              Wow. Nice shooting!

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