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  • BayouBullets
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 275

    CDNN CZ Mags are Counterfeit

    I just received a shipment of Magazines for CZ82/83. They have a label that says CZ factory magazine. It was advertised on the website as factory cz as well, but they are clearly fakes. The logo is wrong. None of the CZ proof marks. There is a mark on the bottom of the floorplate that says "mfg CZ." But that's not a Czeska Zbrojovka proof and never has been. The mag bodies don't have the reinforcement dimple that real ones have at the bottom. WORSE, the mag springs are MUCH weaker than real CZ 82/83 mags that are used surplus good condition. VERY Disappointing that CDNN would sell such an obvious counterfeit.
    9mm and 45acp are equally lousy. There's not a dime's worth of difference in REAL terminal ballistics. Get over it.
  • #2
    Oldnoob
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 2829

    Can you post detail photos for us to see?
    Taiwan born, Chinese descent, red white and freaking blue America citizen.

    Gun Control - A theory espoused by some monumentally stupid people; who claim to believe, against all logic and common sense, that a violent predator who ignores the laws prohibiting them from robbing, raping, kidnapping, torturing and killing their fellow human beings will obey a law telling them that they cannot own a gun.

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    • #3
      BayouBullets
      Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 275

      I don't have a clue how to post photos. Not very tech savvy. But, I know my equipment and these are NOT even CLOSE to the real thing. The only visual detail would be the reinforcement dimple. CZ mags have a depression on each of the two sides that rises vertically up from the floorplate. This "dimple" reinforces the mag body making it more rigid. The big problem is the spring strength and a picture can't show you how easy it is to push in a brand new follower with your finger.
      9mm and 45acp are equally lousy. There's not a dime's worth of difference in REAL terminal ballistics. Get over it.

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      • #4
        MrBlazito
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 1005

        Have you contacted CDNN yet?

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        • #5
          BayouBullets
          Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 275

          Yes. I informed them by email. Waiting for their response.
          9mm and 45acp are equally lousy. There's not a dime's worth of difference in REAL terminal ballistics. Get over it.

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          • #6
            bohoki
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 20826

            yea i got some cz52 mags with that czmfg mark i think they really are made by some czechoslovakia maker just made a year ago its just they are not made well

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            • #7
              seal20
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 3081

              CDNN sells tons of junk, eff them

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              • #8
                bluesmoke9
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 815

                Originally posted by seal20
                CDNN sells tons of junk, eff them
                Well this sucks. I just bought something for the first time ever from CDNN. A set of grips for a Ruger MKIII. I can only hope they're legit.
                If you buy anything because it has "tactical" or "operator" in the name, we probably don't run in the same circles.

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                • #9
                  Cokebottle
                  Seņor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by seal20
                  CDNN sells tons of junk, eff them
                  This.
                  They make their bread and butter from cheap Airsoft crap.

                  When the owner sees your email complaining, you'll probably get back a rant about how you get what you deserve electing the people that "we" have elected in California.
                  A few years ago CDNN refused to sell a 10rd magazine to a member and the owner commented that he cancels any California orders he notices in the system.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #10
                    Tank 57
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 4177

                    Originally posted by Cokebottle
                    This.
                    They make their bread and butter from cheap Airsoft crap.

                    When the owner sees your email complaining, you'll probably get back a rant about how you get what you deserve electing the people that "we" have elected in California.
                    A few years ago CDNN refused to sell a 10rd magazine to a member and the owner commented that he cancels any California orders he notices in the system.
                    OP is not in California.

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                    • #11
                      -hanko
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 14174

                      Originally posted by Cokebottle
                      This.
                      They make their bread and butter from cheap Airsoft crap.

                      When the owner sees your email complaining, you'll probably get back a rant about how you get what you deserve electing the people that "we" have elected in California.

                      A few years ago CDNN refused to sell a 10rd magazine to a member and the owner commented that he cancels any California orders he notices in the system.
                      So you've seen CDNN's P&L showing their profit on different product lines??...I find that somewhat doubtful...:roll eyes:

                      Might be interesting to wait for OP's response from CDNN.

                      I've ordered from CDNN since the late 1980's while in Texas, California, and Idaho...I have yet to have an order canceled.

                      Ask most Texans what they think of most Californians and go from there.
                      True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                      Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                      Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

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                      • #12
                        The Gleam
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 13377

                        Originally posted by BayouBullets
                        Yes. I informed them by email. Waiting for their response.
                        This one deserves an immediate phone call. Emails are on automatic delay, ignored until there is time - possibly even go to spam box.

                        In any case, I've never had trouble with CDNN - ever. True, while their profile is not a sure-fire as it was some 15 years ago, if selective, good things still happen. In fact, 2 of my Mateba Unicas came from them, pre-SB15 Roster/ Year 2000.
                        -----------------------------------------------
                        Originally posted by Librarian
                        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                        • #13
                          Cokebottle
                          Seņor Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 32373

                          Originally posted by -hanko
                          I've ordered from CDNN since the late 1980's while in Texas, California, and Idaho...I have yet to have an order canceled.
                          Same here... but a few Calgunners did have that happen back in 2010 or 2011. I'm just repeating what was shared in those threads.

                          Ask most Texans what they think of most Californians and go from there.
                          Ask most California gun owners and they'd likely agree.
                          The problem is, the frustration and aggressive attitude is misplaced. We are trying to keep this state free but we are up against the Mongolian hordes of "gimmie" voters.
                          - Rich

                          Originally posted by dantodd
                          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                          • #14
                            DSB
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1005

                            Have you tried emailing CZ with photos of the mags to find out CZ's opinion?

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                            • #15
                              MyOdessa
                              Ban Islam
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 2561

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