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  • jeffrice6
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2006
    • 5172

    Rhetorical question ~

    If everyone hates LCI's and Hillary hole S&W's ~ Why buy them?!? Real question!

    If no one did, there'd be no more of the abominations.

    Minus the excuses, why are they still in production / and what made you purchase one???
    WTB: S&W 617 4" 10 shot Pre-Lock
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    trigger945
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    • Sep 2012
    • 5795

    Mayb because people settle? Maybe because even with those features, the gun is still a fine gun? Maybe because it takes more effort (and possibly more money) to acquire a gun without them?
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    • #3
      trigger945
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      • Sep 2012
      • 5795

      For example, I would like to avoid the lock. But the 686 SSR is a fine revolver that only comes with a lock. No choice really unless I get a different revolver instead.
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      • #4
        ZirconJohn
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        • Sep 2007
        • 10363

        Rhetorical Question Definition

        A rhetorical question is asked just for effect or to lay emphasis on some point discussed when no real answer is expected. A rhetorical question may have an obvious answer but the questioner asks rhetorical questions to lay emphasis to the point. In literature, a rhetorical question is self-evident and used for style as an impressive persuasive device.
        Broadly speaking, a rhetorical question is asked when the questioner himself knows the answer already or an answer is not actually demanded. So, an answer is not expected from the audience. Such a question is used to emphasize a point or draw the audience’s attention.

        Therefore, I surmise that Librarian is hereby authorized to use his "Asked and Answered - Thread Locked" privilege as an answer is not expected from the audience, and the OP answered his own rhetorical question
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        • #5
          Fastattack
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 1660

          Why do you buy gas with ethanol in it? Rhetorical question.

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          • #6
            whatmeworry
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 707

            .. 42 ..
            Originally posted by Kestryll
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            • #7
              bwhited
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 1947

              43 it is one better for the Hitchhiker but no towel.


              Originally posted by whatmeworry
              .. 42 ..

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              • #8
                I Swan
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 8770

                I have hundreds of firearms and not one has the lock except a couple of Taurus firearms I got in very favorable trades or prices. I will not own such a S&W except maybe a 460 or the 38Super revolver. The Taurus revolver or rifle lock is not as obtrusive and doesn't bother me as much as a S&W.

                I actually collect Smiths and the lock bothers me. I also don't like the SA ILS or the LCI on most guns depending how they are done. I do not have any Sig Sauers with it. I just seek out guns without features I dislike and I find them with patience.

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                • #9
                  ZirconJohn
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                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 10363

                  Originally posted by I Swan
                  I have hundreds of firearms and not one has the lock except a couple of Taurus firearms I got in very favorable trades or prices. I will not own such a S&W except maybe a 460 or the 38Super revolver. The Taurus revolver or rifle lock is not as obtrusive and doesn't bother me as much as a S&W.

                  I actually collect Smiths and the lock bothers me. I also don't like the SA ILS or the LCI on most guns depending how they are done. I do not have any Sig Sauers with it. I just seek out guns without features I dislike and I find them with patience.
                  Okay so ............ what is your rhetorical question? - Stay on topic please
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                  • #10
                    'ol shooter
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 4646

                    "We're settlers, son." Seriously, the Hil-hole doesn't seem to interfere with the guns I have them on, and the LCI the same, besides I can't see either of them when I'm shooting the guns they're on. If they bother you so much, by all means don't buy them. I wanted a 617 and had no choice, the 442 I won in an NRA raffle.
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                    • #11
                      I Swan
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 8770

                      Originally posted by 'ol shooter
                      "We're settlers, son." Seriously, the Hil-hole doesn't seem to interfere with the guns I have them on, and the LCI the same, besides I can't see either of them when I'm shooting the guns they're on. If they bother you so much, by all means don't buy them. I wanted a 617 and had no choice, the 442 I won in an NRA raffle.
                      You had a choice on the 617 they were made as prelocks. I waited and found a prelock 4in no dash for $425 no tax last year.

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                      • #12
                        JTROKS
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 13093

                        It's not a simple answer. Sort of like that beer goggles chick at the bar. Come last call, take it or leave it.
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                        In the eye of the storm
                        Seek the roses along the way
                        Just beware of the thorns...
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                        • #13
                          Snerk
                          Member
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 168

                          Because I'd rather not pay inflated prices for out of CA versions without those features since they have zero impact on shooting.

                          I lucked out and my SP2022 came to me with no LCI or MD, and an internal extractor. CA legal version but it looks really sleek. I guess SIG is shipping out both kinds and it's a crap shoot as to which you get.

                          But if I was looking at another new handgun that had those features? Not a deciding factor at all for me. As long as the LCI doesn't interfere with the sight picture.

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                          • #14
                            jeffrice6
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 5172

                            Originally posted by JTROKS
                            It's not a simple answer. Sort of like that beer goggles chick at the bar. Come last call, take it or leave it.
                            Oh I get it, it's just funny all the complaining about LCI's & the like and people keep purchasing them....... Don't like um, don't buy um, and things may change!
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                            • #15
                              I Swan
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 8770

                              The S&W 642 is available and on the list as a no lock version. Also you have the SAE loophole if you hate the lock that badly.

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