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  • Jonathan Doe
    • May 2025

    Best Handgun Ammo? Stopping Power?

    When I teach at a federal agency firearms instructor school, recruit academy, or in service training class, one of most frequently asked questions is which ammo has the best stopping power or which one is the best ammo. My standard answer to that question is whichever ammo that the agency issues, because they cannot carry any other ammo.

    Likewise, I am frequently asked by other shooters which ammo is the best. My answer to them is whatever is available at their budget. I have tested many different premium brand ammunition. Federal Hydra-Shok, HST, Winchester SXT, Speer Gold Dot, PMC Starfire, to name a few. All of the ammo tested performed very well in the water tank and gel shooting. The bullets expend just like in the catalog photos. When it came to the actual shootingin real scenario, it is a different story, although Winchester Ranger SXT has the best track record simply because many police agencies use them. By the same token, for a snub nose revolvers, Speer Gold Dot 135 grain JHP bullet worked wery well.

    It all depends on what the target is wearing, where the target was shot, etc. In one particular case, an off duty deputy shot at a suspect with his 2 inch revolver. The bullet went through the clothing. However, the thick clothing plugged up the cavity and the bullet essentially became a FMJ. The bullet went through the body and hit the door. The suspect survived. And in the cases more than I can count, the suspect did not die because of the location of the shots.

    As I have posted in some other threads, I see many bullets recovered during autopsies. Vast majority of the bullets are 22 LR, and small to medium caliber LRN or FMJ bullets. In some cases, the victim was shot once with a 22 LR. I believe that 38 Special LRN killed dmore people than any other caliber or bullet types. The bad guys, believe or not, don't know whole lot about guns and ammo. They just use whatever is available. That is why I see a lot of mismatched guns and ammo. 357 Mag ammo stuffed in a 38 SPl revolver, 32 Auto ammo in a 32 revolver or vice versa, 40 cal in 10mm and the list goes on.

    Yes, if all else is the same, better designed ammo will perform better, and we spend more money for the premium ammo. But, I see far too many shooters are drawn into the concept of the better ammo and neglect another aspect of shooting. A pecision shooting. A well placed shot will beat 15 shots that were not hit the right place.

    Shooting is a perishable skill. I would rather shoot 100 rounds every month than 1000 rounds once a year. I suggest shooters to spend more time and money for practicing than trying wasting time and money on expensive ammo. Well, that's my $.02.
    Last edited by Guest; 01-02-2009, 8:17 PM.
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    gwl
    • May 2007
    • 1328

    and a very valuable two cents. Thank you.
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    • #3
      Kid Stanislaus
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 4419

      "Precision shooting" is a wonderful concept and I'm sure there are some people who can pull it off immediately following a major adrenalin dump. However, for the vast majority of us, our shooting skills are going to degrade considerably under those circumstances. That's why my SD guns all sport CT laser grips. They're no panacea but given that most SD shootings take place in low light situations I'm put'n my faith in them. YMMV

      EDIT: To get back on topic here, I'd rather make a COM shot with a LRN bullet than a peripheral hit with an HST, if the situation is such that I can't avoid the confrontation altogether.
      Last edited by Kid Stanislaus; 01-03-2009, 6:25 AM.
      Things usually turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out.

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        JMB1911
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 948

        Good read. Well said topgun!

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        • #5
          Jonathan Doe

          [QUOTE=Kid Stanislaus;1848325 That's why my SD guns all sport CT laser grips. They're no panacea but given that most SD shootings take place in low light situations I'm put'n my faith in them. YMMV

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          It is very nice to have night sights and laser grips. It is added advantage to help in low light situation. However, trigger control is still the key. I had many LEO's experiment with the laser grips and many of them still missed the targets. They thought the laser would give them misterious ability to hit the target, which is not true. If you control the trigger, you will be able to have a better hit than not having it.

          Like an old western gun fighter said, "you need to learn to be slow in a hurry." like at last picking up your front sight. Through the case analysis of officer involved shootings, one of the biggest reasons that the officers miss the target is because they concentrate on the threat which is a weapon in the suspect's hands. When you concentrate on the hands, you tend to shoot towards the hands and you miss your mark. Pick up your front sight and you should beable to hit at least somewhere you need to hit.

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            gwl
            • May 2007
            • 1328

            On one of my trips to my local range, the group to my right were firing a SIG 226 with CTC grips. My sister in law thought it was pretty cool.

            Cool yes but the shooter had horrible grip and trigger control. He couldn't even put rounds on paper (the target of the BG with a female hostage) at 21 feet.
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            • #7
              Jonathan Doe

              Originally posted by gwl
              On one of my trips to my local range, the group to my right were firing a SIG 226 with CTC grips. My sister in law thought it was pretty cool.

              Cool yes but the shooter had horrible grip and trigger control. He couldn't even put rounds on paper (the target of the BG with a female hostage) at 21 feet.
              Exactly my point..If you don't have trigger control, nothing will help you hit the target.

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              • #8
                Kern 44
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2003
                • 24

                I'm glad to hear this about trigger control. We were learning a drill about grip, front sight, and trigger control, practicing over and over at 25yards - the front sight sharp, the target blurred, easing that trigger through. And then the big discovery: that it's almost ONLY trigger control. I could be wobbly on the target, hazy on the front sight, but pull the trigger correctly and the hit was very good!! Pretty amazing.


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                • #9
                  Kid Stanislaus
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4419

                  Originally posted by topgun7
                  However, trigger control is still the key.

                  This does not need to be repeated ad infinitum. OF COURSE trigger control is ONE of the keys to effective SD shooting. I might also add that the Pope is indeed Catholic and bruins most definitely doo doo in the forest!

                  EDIT: Is this thread about ammo? Boy, we sure hijacked it in a hurry!!
                  Last edited by Kid Stanislaus; 01-03-2009, 7:29 PM.
                  Things usually turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out.

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                  • #10
                    gwl
                    • May 2007
                    • 1328



                    I'm just as guilty.
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                    • #11
                      radioburning
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4811

                      Thanks for the info topgun7. While getting hit in the chest with a .45 Black Talon is probably not much fun, I never thought getting hit with a .45 wadcutter in the same spot would be as good a time as my favorite birthday party, either.

                      I view shooting the same as shooting pool, or playing guitar-you lose your chops if you don't practice regularly.
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                      "No one said life would be easy".

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                      • #12
                        Jonathan Doe

                        Originally posted by Kid Stanislaus
                        This does not need to be repeated ad infinitum. OF COURSE trigger control is ONE of the keys to effective SD shooting. I might also add that the Pope is indeed Catholic and bruins most definitely doo doo in the forest!

                        EDIT: Is this thread about ammo? Boy, we sure hijacked it in a hurry!!
                        Nobody hijacked the thread. What I tried to say was although the type of ammo maybe important, more important is how accurately you deliver the bullet on the target. And to do so, you have to do your part.

                        I will post some, what I think is important, aspect of shooting from real life cases of police involved shootings and/or murder cases I come across in the course of my work in the future.
                        Last edited by Guest; 01-03-2009, 9:59 PM. Reason: spelling correction

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