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  • #91
    451040
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 2169

    Originally posted by glock_nor_cal
    I've been shooting with guys with 1911s 3 different times, and Twice the guns had issues with feeding ammo.
    Originally posted by glock_nor_cal
    One guy's gun was so screwed he had to take the slide off to clear a stuck casing in the barrel.
    Originally posted by glock_nor_cal
    I've owned Glocks and Sigs and my perception is they are more reliable
    Originally posted by glock_nor_cal
    crappy 1911s

    situation normal

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    • #92
      TJW
      Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 265

      Kimber 1911

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      Last edited by TJW; 07-12-2016, 9:53 AM. Reason: error

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      • #93
        liberallyloaded
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 1027

        Originally posted by Joe
        1911s are trash. Glock for life
        Don't feed the troll(s)!

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        "I find it extremely improbable that the Framers understood the Second Amendment to protect little more than carrying a gun from the bedroom to the kitchen."

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        • #94
          DSB
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 1005

          I have had three 1911s: Colt XSE 5 inch, Springfield 4 inch LW, and Dan Wesson 4 inch.

          The Colt and the DW were flawless from day 1. I have had to do some work on the Springfield, but it now runs like a top.

          The 1911s have been as reliable as my glock, my CZ and my S&Ws. It's not the platform, it's the individual gun.

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          • #95
            MrElectric03
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 1590

            The design hasn't been around for over a hundred years because it sucks. That said I have not had good luck with Kimber and Para 1911s and wouldn't spend money on one. I've been told Kimber has much improved their quality control recently so maybe better. Also keep in mind no gun that isn't cared for will work reliably forever.
            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            So you are throwing out 95% of reality to select the 5% of reality where you are actually right?
            We must be on calguns...

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            • #96
              Garand1911
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2002
              • 1443

              When 1911s have problems ask 3 questions -- what brand of gun? What brand/type of ammo? What brand of magazine?
              Usually the biggest culprit are el cheapo mags, or damaged mags.
              Also, USGI type 1911s have a narrow feed ramp for shooting ball ammo, and they will sometimes hang up on HP ammo.
              "I saved your life, AND brought you pizza" -- Me

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              • #97
                glock_nor_cal
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 1045

                Originally posted by Win231
                I've had experience with two Colts, one Kimber Gold Match & two S&W 1911's. None functioned 100%. The only 1911 I've ever owned that did function 100% was a Wilson CQB which retails for $3,000.00.

                My 6 Glocks have a total of over 19,000 rounds without a malfunction (I stopped keeping track after 17,000). My Sigarms P220ST has 960 rounds without a malfunction.

                Patriotism aside, there are almost twice as many parts in a 1911 as in a modern polymer-frame pistol such as a Glock & (unlike a Glock) there is quite a bit of metal-to-metal friction which requires fitting & adequate lube to function. And, to cut manufacturing costs today, companies are using cheaper MIM parts (that's what makes the Wilsons, etc. so pricey - machined parts). We can't expect a pistol designed in 1905 to be as reliable as a modern pistol.
                Your post was exactly my thought process. Thanks for sharing.

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                • #98
                  JDay
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19393

                  They probably never probably clean/lube them. It's also likely that their springs need to be changed. Many people are clueless when it comes to firearms maintenance.
                  Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                  The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                  • #99
                    Jcannon91
                    Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 188

                    My TRP runs like a champ, I had more issues with my glock 17 gen 4 than my 1911. I think my problem with my 17 was it just never felt right in my hand and I think that caused me to try to adjust how I held the gun and that led to FTE and other issues. I've shot over 7k rounds through my 226 and the only issues I've had were ammo related. (All the 9mm guns I had hated that brand of reloads. Just my two cents.

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                    • Cody
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 2148

                      I always figured that people owned Glocks because they lost a bet.

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                      • Germ1
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 1165

                        Originally posted by ElvenSoul
                        Shhhhhhh I did not tell you this but all autos from time to time will have feeding or extraction issues.

                        Why I own a few revolvers.
                        My Glock has had exactly one FTF in 10,500 rounds.

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                        • patriot_man
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 2640

                          I have great respect for the 1911 platform and gunsmith for some of my close friends. It is not a platform I recommend for novices and those who don't want to spend the time learning your gun nor maintaining it.

                          Also noticed that someone mentioned 1911's choking up in classes. I've been to a dedicated 1911 class and did not witness a malfunction because everyone in that class was a hardcore enthusiast of the platform and know their guns inside out while keeping them maintained. I would reckon these examples are novices that brought their plinking range guns to a course without really running the gun hard prior nor properly tested.

                          On the flip side I've seen Glocks (Gen 3) slip out of people's hand while those running aggressively checkered metal frame guns ala 1911 having no issues with maintaining a grip. Hence is a reasoning for why I stick with the RTF2 or stippled Gen 3 Glocks.

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                          • Snapping Twig
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 2049

                            I've shot a lot of different 1911's, but I have owned 3.

                            Kimber, DW, Colt NM (1966).

                            The Kimber was unreliable with my reloads - FTRB. The chamber was too tight, that and a few other niggling issues I thought were nutz for such a "nice" 1911.

                            The DW has been flawless, as has the Colt NM.

                            Don't own a plastic gun, just a personal thing 'cause I know they work well.

                            The Kimber shot ball well, home loads or factory, but I don't shoot factory or ball, so it had to go.

                            I'd trust my life to either of my 1911's.
                            Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

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                            • calif 15-22
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 5861

                              Originally posted by tbc
                              Have you found one yet?


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                              • POINTMANDDT
                                Veteran Member
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 2530

                                I love glocks and have never had an issue with them. I also, have a Ed Brown Kobra carry and a Nighthawk Predator II. Never had any issues with them either, although the both 1911's have very low round counts. The Predator II .45 is my most accurate pistol, my Glock 17 is my most accurate during rapid fire.

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