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  • Slugz
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 521

    Trigger flex on the m&p

    I know this may end up being a stupid question but how much of an effect does moving to an apex aluminum trigger have on the "spongyness" and flex of the standard m&p pistol. For legal and general safety reasons i don't want to go to a full forward set sear but i do feel like the standard trigger has a bit of flex to it which probably adds some "perceived trigger weight" to it and just general lack of crispness. My question is, how much of this is attributed to the trigger itself? I've studied the internals closely and can't see any other place that might be "loose" or flexible enough to compound this problem but I'm no expert.

    Will swapping to a metal trigger really clear that issue up entirely? And are there and better/more cost efficient options? 80 bucks for a simple trigger shoe seems excessive..
  • #2
    Kmai24
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 1220

    A little elbow grease and polishing of the internals


    Check out post #14

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    • #3
      hardhead
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2014
      • 406

      Not sure if just replacing the trigger would solve your issue, but I installed the complete FSS kit on two of my M&Ps and it is a night and day difference. The one I carry only has the DCAE kit because I don't need any additional headaches if I ever had to use it. It's definitely and improvement, but not as light and crisp as the FSS.

      The apex trigger itself reduces much of the pre-travel, so I'm not sure how well that would work with stock springs and sear.

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      • #4
        Slugz
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 521

        Originally posted by HopetonBrown
        This will fix your trigger issues. And it's free.

        http://pistol-training.com/archives/5185
        Leave the smart *** comments in 5th grade.

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        • #5
          Slugz
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 521

          As for polishing the internals, did it. It's very smooth but you can see and feel the trigger flex. Cheap plastic.

          What's a dcae kit?

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          • #6
            vliberatore
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2011
            • 10055

            Originally posted by Slugz
            Leave the smart *** comments in 5th grade.
            Originally posted by fighterpilot562
            Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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            • #7
              Slugz
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 521

              Originally posted by vliberatore
              Im cool as ****. I just don't enjoy the company of people that act like children. Im here for advice on trigger replacements for the m&p. Not smart *** banter.

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              • #8
                Marquand
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 1482

                Originally posted by Slugz
                I know this may end up being a stupid question but how much of an effect does moving to an apex aluminum trigger have on the "spongyness" and flex of the standard m&p pistol. For legal and general safety reasons i don't want to go to a full forward set sear but i do feel like the standard trigger has a bit of flex to it which probably adds some "perceived trigger weight" to it and just general lack of crispness. My question is, how much of this is attributed to the trigger itself? I've studied the internals closely and can't see any other place that might be "loose" or flexible enough to compound this problem but I'm no expert.

                Will swapping to a metal trigger really clear that issue up entirely? And are there and better/more cost efficient options? 80 bucks for a simple trigger shoe seems excessive..
                The Apex trigger made a world of difference to me on my M&P. Well worth the expense.
                "A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends upon the character of the user." - Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #9
                  saudadeii
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 3433

                  Well, I agree. The trigger itself is "flexy". I have a FS9, a 9C and a Shield. The Shield trigger is more stout and feels more solid.

                  I've replaced the trigger bars (H stamped) and slide stops (new style) in both full size and compact. I even have the PC sear in my compact. Both are buffed out where they have visible abs.

                  The trigger still bends. The Apex trigger would likely take care of it. The polymer trigger alone is about $40 without the sear, springs, etc.

                  Only you can determine if it's worth it. I'm OK with mine as they are.
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                  • #10
                    static2126
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 5619

                    Originally posted by HopetonBrown
                    Not smart ***. If you dry fired 15 minutes a day for the next month you would no longer be concerned about the material composition of your trigger.
                    This is true overall. I am a Glock shooter and have shot m&ps too
                    I find the more dry fire and live fire I do, the less I care about non sight upgrades or how my guns look

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                    • #11
                      stevec223
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1620

                      I could not stand the crappy-hinge trigger on my MP... Put in the aluminum Apex trigger and the duty carry kit... 1000% better trigger now... Putting on only the aluminum trigger would solve your flexing problem and I could probably have started there,, but wanted the whole job done at once... Since the trigger is sold alone I think you should give it a try.. Might be all you need ... Cheers..

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                      • #12
                        Kmai24
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 1220

                        Originally posted by stevec223
                        I could not stand the crappy-hinge trigger on my MP... Put in the aluminum Apex trigger and the duty carry kit... 1000% better trigger now... Putting on only the aluminum trigger would solve your flexing problem and I could probably have started there,, but wanted the whole job done at once... Since the trigger is sold alone I think you should give it a try.. Might be all you need ... Cheers..
                        You can even try the enhanced polymer trig to save some pennies. I have both and they work just fine..if you've already polished up the internals the "enhanced trig" will almost be like the dcaek kit.

                        Last edited by Kmai24; 02-22-2016, 7:49 PM.

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                        • #13
                          sholling
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 10360

                          I have an M&P with the FSS trigger kit, another with the Apex the Duty/Carry kit with Apex polymer trigger, and still another with a Duty/Carry kit with an aluminum trigger. The FSS kit is awesome but I'd only use it on an M&P with a thumb safety because it's just too good. Their duty/carry kit gets the trigger down to around 5-1/2lbs or so, and with a bit of polishing and deburring you smooth out the trigger pull and get the pull weight under 5lbs. Choosing between the polymer and aluminium triggers is personal taste. For me the more rounded shape and corners of the polymer trigger is more comfortable. Others like feel the slab-like aluminum trigger better.
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                          • #14
                            Rhyme_merchant
                            Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 248

                            I felt this same thing from my glock. I thought a metal trigger might fix the issue but I got used to it, and actually preferred it.

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