threaded barrel on a "pistol" and magazine in front of the pistol grip

[DRTYLUVN]

sorry if this a noob question but i was just at one of my local gun stores during lunch time
we were talking about ar pistols, the clerk which is also a gun nut brought up a point about 80% pistol build being ca legal, i informed him that i was on this forum/site and have read about atf/nfa definitions
he said ""if" i was wanting to build from an 80% i should also look into cali penal code 1202 or something like that since california has their own definition from federal definitions
if anyone is aware of this or has an idea of what he was talking about can you point me in the right direction
i tried looking it up but not getting anywhere right now
the points we talked about was threaded barrel on a "pistol" definition and magazine in front of the pistol grip may fall into a "tech gun" definition

just want to be legal and in the know "if" i decided to participate and have pictures in this thread

[Johnboywalton]

sorry if this a noob question but i was just at one of my local gun stores during lunch time
we were talking about ar pistols, the clerk which is also a gun nut brought up a point about 80% pistol build being ca legal, i informed him that i was on this forum/site and have read about atf/nfa definitions
he said ""if" i was wanting to build from an 80% i should also look into cali penal code 1202 or something like that since california has their own definition from federal definitions
if anyone is aware of this or has an idea of what he was talking about can you point me in the right direction
i tried looking it up but not getting anywhere right now
the points we talked about was threaded barrel on a "pistol" definition and magazine in front of the pistol grip may fall into a "tech gun" definition

just want to be legal and in the know "if" i decided to participate and have pictures in this thread

Ahahahahahahaha! Another Nazi California democrat cop tryin to make name for himself/herself. What a joke. Thank God I moved out of California.

[Artema]

sorry if this a noob question but i was just at one of my local gun stores during lunch time
we were talking about ar pistols, the clerk which is also a gun nut brought up a point about 80% pistol build being ca legal, i informed him that i was on this forum/site and have read about atf/nfa definitions
he said ""if" i was wanting to build from an 80% i should also look into cali penal code 1202 or something like that since california has their own definition from federal definitions
if anyone is aware of this or has an idea of what he was talking about can you point me in the right direction
i tried looking it up but not getting anywhere right now
the points we talked about was threaded barrel on a "pistol" definition and magazine in front of the pistol grip may fall into a "tech gun" definition

just want to be legal and in the know "if" i decided to participate and have pictures in this thread

The difference there is they don't have a detachable magazine.

[Chunky_lover]

this is a photo thread, ask questions in the correct areas, or start your own thread

to make it simple, intertech is a brand name thats not allowed that brand name is banned
unless tech gun means something else that ive never heard of

ar pistols have mag locks, so you can have threaded barrel

sorry if this a noob question but i was just at one of my local gun stores during lunch time
we were talking about ar pistols, the clerk which is also a gun nut brought up a point about 80% pistol build being ca legal, i informed him that i was on this forum/site and have read about atf/nfa definitions
he said ""if" i was wanting to build from an 80% i should also look into cali penal code 1202 or something like that since california has their own definition from federal definitions
if anyone is aware of this or has an idea of what he was talking about can you point me in the right direction
i tried looking it up but not getting anywhere right now
the points we talked about was threaded barrel on a "pistol" definition and magazine in front of the pistol grip may fall into a "tech gun" definition

just want to be legal and in the know "if" i decided to participate and have pictures in this thread

[Quiet]

sorry if this a noob question but i was just at one of my local gun stores during lunch time
we were talking about ar pistols, the clerk which is also a gun nut brought up a point about 80% pistol build being ca legal, i informed him that i was on this forum/site and have read about atf/nfa definitions
he said ""if" i was wanting to build from an 80% i should also look into cali penal code 1202 or something like that since california has their own definition from federal definitions
if anyone is aware of this or has an idea of what he was talking about can you point me in the right direction
i tried looking it up but not getting anywhere right now
the points we talked about was threaded barrel on a "pistol" definition and magazine in front of the pistol grip may fall into a "tech gun" definition

just want to be legal and in the know "if" i decided to participate and have pictures in this thread

In order to be legal under Federal and CA laws...

The "80% receiver" needs to be made into a dimensionally complaint (minimum 6" barrel length + minimum 10.5" overall length) bolt-action single shot pistol or a dimensionally complaint (minimum 6" barrel length + minimum 10.5" overall length) break-top/open single shot pistol. [PC 32100(b)]

A single shot pistol can legally have a threaded barrel.
-Only semi-auto pistols that accept detachable magazines can not legally have a threaded barrel, second handgrip, barrel shroud, or the ability to accept a magazine outside of the pistol grip. [PC 30515(a)(4)]

[DRTYLUVN]

Ahahahahahahaha! Another Nazi California democrat cop tryin to make name for himself/herself. What a joke. Thank God I moved out of California.

i knew i was gonna get flamed for asking this question
remember you were in this position at one time in your life of building stuff like cars, guns, etc

this is a legitimate question, believe it or not there are people who want to stay legit and legal when it comes to building/aquiring guns here in california

i didnt ask for reasons why i can or cant from anyone, i asked for help on finding a link to the penal code the clerk at the gun counter mentioned

for some of us we cant/dont just move out of california like you
all my immediate family is here and i dont wanna shovel snow because thats where the extended families live

thank you for looking at me thread but if you cant help me with my question please move on and not accuse me of being someone im not

[DRTYLUVN]

this is a photo thread, ask questions in the correct areas, or start your own thread

to make it simple, intertech is a brand name thats not allowed that brand name is banned
unless tech gun means something else that ive never heard of

ar pistols have mag locks, so you can have threaded barrel

sorry for hi-jacking the pic thread, i did a search and the thread came up so i was hoping i could ask the question real quick, i want to have my own pic of my own pistol in the thread soon

[Chunky_lover]

looks like this has been taken out of the photo thread now

[Chunky_lover]

also remember since 2015 there are new rules to building a pistol compared to 2014 and earlier

someone posted above the newer rules when building

[DRTYLUVN]

In order to be legal under Federal and CA laws...

The "80% receiver" needs to be made into a dimensionally complaint (minimum 6" barrel length + minimum 10.5" overall length) bolt-action single shot pistol or a dimensionally complaint (minimum 6" barrel length + minimum 10.5" overall length) break-top/open single shot pistol. [PC 32100(b)]

A single shot pistol can legally have a threaded barrel.
-Only semi-auto pistols that accept detachable magazines can not legally have a threaded barrel, second handgrip, barrel shroud, or the ability to accept a magazine outside of the pistol grip. [PC 30515(a)(4)]

thank you for your help
i have read about the minimum lengths and such
i will review the PC 30515 because i have not read that one yet and it seems like it might be the code the clerk was reffering to

so if i tac weld 1 or 2 spots on the muzzle device and my barrel will qualify it as permanent and non-threaded or would i have to completely weld it closed?

the build i have in mind is demensionally compliant like you mentioned above its making it cali legal on all aspects
if i do such build it will be on a 80% so all the help and info on making it ca compliant will be appreciated

[DRTYLUVN]

also remember since 2015 there are new rules to building a pistol compared to 2014 and earlier

someone posted above the newer rules when building

i read somewhere on here about the new 2015 rules
i remember it saying it had to start out as single shot and people mentioned using a single shot sled to make it meet the single shot requirement
and take pics of build step by step

[I Swan]

Not that I recommend breaking a law but isn't it near impossible to know when an 80% was built? I for one for various reasons do not do 80%'s. When I leave CA I'll sure miss that I can't surf and ski on same day anymore! Really seriously has anyone here done that before? I've been to two gun shows on one day before though!

[DRTYLUVN]

^^ that is the reason why im asking questions
its builders words vs authorities words but keeping it as legal as possible hopefully would be more in the favor of the builder if something should happen

california has "their own" definitions and rules aside from federal so it just makes it that much harder to be legal

[Artema]

^^ that is the reason why im asking questions
its builders words vs authorities words but keeping it as legal as possible hopefully would be more in the favor of the builder if something should happen

california has "their own" definitions and rules aside from federal so it just makes it that much harder to be legal

That's the point. Unless you're a LEO on some level, only criminals have guns according to them. And if you're not a criminal yet, they'll make it so that will be with the next law they pass.

[DRTYLUVN]

i see where your coming from
i guess i wont be building an "AR PISTOL"

thanks for the help guys