Bersa Thunder Pro XT Magazine Help

[ElVasco]

Hi All!

I'm in a pickle and could use some advice.

Last week, my awesome grandma in Utah bought me a Bersa Thunder Pro XT 9mm for a late Christmas/early birthday present. I've wanted one since I heard about it and needless to say I was super excited.

I know that the Thunder Pro XT is NOT on the California roster and I asked Bersa (Eagle Imports) if they would be making a California version and after what I'm sure was a bout of laughter they said no. So, when my grandma offered to get me a firearm as a gift (some days I miss Utah) I knew exactly what I wanted; an off-roster Bersa! And it was perfectly legal as I followed the Calguns (and my local FFL)'s advice on intra-familiar interstate off-roster transfers.

The problem is this; The Pro XT 9mm came with five-17 round clips. Now, I wasn't concerned about this because on Eagle's website and in their 2016 catalog, it clearly says that the Bersa Thunder Pro XT 9mm comes in a 17rd clip and a 10rd clip. My grandma just bought what was there and I assumed, that while it was a bummer, I would lose the five clips (maybe have her or my cousin sell them in Utah online) and I would just buy a couple of 10rd clips. So I jumped on the Eagle Imports website and didn't see them for sell; no big deal - I write Eagle an email. They simply respond "The 10rd clip doesn't fit." I go back and forth with them, getting one sentence responses until I finally send them a screenshot from their website and catalog that says that gun comes with a 10rd clip. They respond "Thanks for pointing that out. We went to the warehouse to double check and it doesn't fit. Maybe Bersa will come out with one in the future." So I head over to Bersa's official website in Argentina and sure enough their catalog says it only comes in 17rd. I write to Bersa of Argentina (I luckily speak Spanish) and they never respond (which, frankly for a company in Argentina, isn't that surprising - my dad is from there and I lived there for awhile and that's pretty typical).

So now I don't know what to do. Do any of you know of a place anywhere in the US where I can have these clips sent to be modified to decrease the capacity? Obviously I had the gun sent without the clips as I know I can't bring them in, so they're still in Utah. I don't know the legality of someone in Utah sending them to a 3rd party somewhere else, which then sends them to me with a fixed-10rd capacity here in California? Does anyone even do that? Essentially I'm pretty worried that I received a gift of a $750 paper weight.

Sorry for the long winded explanation and I appreciate any help anyone can provide.

[supertrooper]

Its called a magazine not a clip.

[boludo12]

Boludo, como andas?

Estoy muy celoso que tengas esta pistola. Mandame como anda la pistola.

You can have the mags blocked. There are a few companies that will do that. Once blocked you're good to go for shipping to you.

Buenas suerte.

[ElVasco]

Just have a family member block them then have them shipped.

I think that's what I'm going to end up doing. Unfortunately, my family in Utah doesn't really know how to block a pistol mag... they've never had to.

Its called a magazine not a clip.

Thank you for the lesson in semantics. You can comfortably lay your head down tonight with a sentiment of accomplishment that you corrected a term that while ubiquitously understood, is technically incorrect, all while adding absolutely nothing of value. 5-star post.

Boludo, como andas?

Estoy muy celoso que tengas esta pistola. Mandame como anda la pistola.

You can have the mags blocked. There are a few companies that will do that. Once blocked you're good to go for shipping to you.

Buenas suerte.

Gracias, che! Un placer a encontrar un otro boludo en calguns!

Tuve la oportunidad a tirarla mientras estuve en Utah y es una joya!

I will let you know more! Thanks so much!

[RedFord150]

...Last week, my awesome grandma in Utah bought me ...The Pro XT 9mm came with five-17 round clips. ....

Its called a magazine not a clip.

...Thank you for the lesson in semantics. You can comfortably lay your head down tonight with a sentiment of accomplishment that you corrected a term that while ubiquitously understood, is technically incorrect, all while adding absolutely nothing of value. 5-star post. ...

Maybe your awesome grandma can buy you some class.

[Rosebud22]

You should block out two and ship to Ca. Leave 3 in UT. You should visit Grandma more often.

[heyjerr]

Thank you for the lesson in semantics. You can comfortably lay your head down tonight with a sentiment of accomplishment that you corrected a term that while ubiquitously understood, is technically incorrect, all while adding absolutely nothing of value. 5-star post.

Yes, welcome to CalGuns. You received your first lesson in a very simple, well stated manner....to which you replied with this snark.

We're excited you got a nice, off-roster pistol. We'll be even more excited if you can man up and find a way to swallow your pride in the future by simply thanking someone for trying to help you not look like an under-informed firearm owner. (I edited this so as not to call you something less flattering, which was hard considering you didn't just make the mistake of calling a "mag" a "clip" but drove it into the ground by repeating it 9 times within a single post).

[ElVasco]

Look, I wholeheartedly apologize if I rubbed anyone the wrong way, but let's call this what it is. This is an utter cancer that effects many internet forums and that's faux-gurus spending their time trying to play semantic games to show they're cool. The idea that this gentleman was pursuing threads with the noble intention of simply helping people new to the board with proper terminology is utterly asinine and I think you all know that. Maybe I am newer to this board, but I've been around the internet long enough to spot this very clearly.

Now, had he said "Hi! Welcome! I unfortunately don't have any advice, but just a friendly FYI: when you say 'clip,' I believe the term you're looking for is 'magazine.' Good luck!" I would have immediately thanked him profusely. That's not what happened here and there is no excuse for it. Is he going to say he didn't have time to write like an adult? I find that hard to believe if he has time to go into topics where he clearly has nothing to add except semantic corrections - anyone that does that has plenty of time.

If he was just giving some kind advice as you all proclaim, what is his goal to state it so flatly? Maybe he thought the term "clip" in its misuse was confusing to other users who would otherwise be helping me? If someone interpreted my use of "clip" to mean "firing pin" and not "magazine" then again, I completely apologize; I don't think that's the case.

Maybe he was truly concerned that an individual like myself, new and naive would stumble into a gun store and ask for a pistol "clip" where I would immediately turn into a laughing stock and come home with hurt feelings of what a guy I don't know behind the counter thinks of me.

Tell you what; let me give Supertrooper the benefit of the doubt and assume that he, like you all imply, was merely browsing threads looking to help new users with proper terminology regarding firearms and in his Asperger way did his best imitation of a coherent helping sentence with only the best intentions and I, like the classless jerk I am, reacted in a callous and sarcastic manner. Let this line serve as me "manning up" and offering my sincerest apologies. I wish you godspeed on your journey to help new members use proper terms to fit in the hobby better.

[Supersapper]

Try not to be too upset...

ElVasco,

Rather than put it here, I'm sending you a PM on the posting. One gentleman to another...

Mark

Look, I wholeheartedly apologize if I rubbed anyone the wrong way, but let's call this what it is. This is an utter cancer that effects many internet forums and that's faux-gurus spending their time trying to play semantic games to show they're cool. The idea that this gentleman was pursuing threads with the noble intention of simply helping people new to the board with proper terminology is utterly asinine and I think you all know that. Maybe I am newer to this board, but I've been around the internet long enough to spot this very clearly.

Now, had he said "Hi! Welcome! I unfortunately don't have any advice, but just a friendly FYI: when you say 'clip,' I believe the term you're looking for is 'magazine.' Good luck!" I would have immediately thanked him profusely. That's not what happened here and there is no excuse for it. Is he going to say he didn't have time to write like an adult? I find that hard to believe if he has time to go into topics where he clearly has nothing to add except semantic corrections - anyone that does that has plenty of time.

If he was just giving some kind advice as you all proclaim, what is his goal to state it so flatly? Maybe he thought the term "clip" in its misuse was confusing to other users who would otherwise be helping me? If someone interpreted my use of "clip" to mean "firing pin" and not "magazine" then again, I completely apologize; I don't think that's the case.

Maybe he was truly concerned that an individual like myself, new and naive would stumble into a gun store and ask for a pistol "clip" where I would immediately turn into a laughing stock and come home with hurt feelings of what a guy I don't know behind the counter thinks of me.

Tell you what; let me give Supertrooper the benefit of the doubt and assume that he, like you all imply, was merely browsing threads looking to help new users with proper terminology regarding firearms and in his Asperger way did his best imitation of a coherent helping sentence with only the best intentions and I, like the classless jerk I am, reacted in a callous and sarcastic manner. Let this line serve as me "manning up" and offering my sincerest apologies. I wish you godspeed on your journey to help new members use proper terms to fit in the hobby better.

[ElVasco]

I call it a clipazine.

Thank you lol. That diffused any frustration I had. I think I might quote that... And I'm psyched it came from a guy whose pic is a Scientist album. "Dance of the Vampires" is an all time great tune.

[Librarian]

Geez, people.

I'm as 'technically correct' on stuff as you're likely to find.

There are places where pedantry is appropriate, and places one needs to relax.

See also this Remington page - my favorite thing to use an an example; if the manufacturers use the term, can it be entirely wrong?

(But it IS magazine, I tell you, MAGAZINE! )

[strongpoint]

There are commercial service providers outside the state that will block magazines prior to shipping them into California. PM CGN member audiophil2 and see if he will either do this or refer you to someone else who might.

Thank you for the lesson in semantics. You can comfortably lay your head down tonight with a sentiment of accomplishment that you corrected a term that while ubiquitously understood, is technically incorrect, all while adding absolutely nothing of value. 5-star post.

Applause for a great answer.

[ElVasco]

There are commercial service providers outside the state that will block magazines prior to shipping them into California. PM CGN member audiophil2 and see if he will either do this or refer you to someone else who might.





Applause for a great answer.

Thanks so much to you and the Librarian for the kind words; greatly appreciated!

Additionally, thanks so much for the lead! I will absolutely reach out to audiophil2. You guys are awesome.

Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

[supertrooper]

Look, I wholeheartedly apologize if I rubbed anyone the wrong way, but let's call this what it is. This is an utter cancer that effects many internet forums and that's faux-gurus spending their time trying to play semantic games to show they're cool. The idea that this gentleman was pursuing threads with the noble intention of simply helping people new to the board with proper terminology is utterly asinine and I think you all know that. Maybe I am newer to this board, but I've been around the internet long enough to spot this very clearly.

Now, had he said "Hi! Welcome! I unfortunately don't have any advice, but just a friendly FYI: when you say 'clip,' I believe the term you're looking for is 'magazine.' Good luck!" I would have immediately thanked him profusely. That's not what happened here and there is no excuse for it. Is he going to say he didn't have time to write like an adult? I find that hard to believe if he has time to go into topics where he clearly has nothing to add except semantic corrections - anyone that does that has plenty of time.

If he was just giving some kind advice as you all proclaim, what is his goal to state it so flatly? Maybe he thought the term "clip" in its misuse was confusing to other users who would otherwise be helping me? If someone interpreted my use of "clip" to mean "firing pin" and not "magazine" then again, I completely apologize; I don't think that's the case.

Maybe he was truly concerned that an individual like myself, new and naive would stumble into a gun store and ask for a pistol "clip" where I would immediately turn into a laughing stock and come home with hurt feelings of what a guy I don't know behind the counter thinks of me.

Tell you what; let me give Supertrooper the benefit of the doubt and assume that he, like you all imply, was merely browsing threads looking to help new users with proper terminology regarding firearms and in his Asperger way did his best imitation of a coherent helping sentence with only the best intentions and I, like the classless jerk I am, reacted in a callous and sarcastic manner. Let this line serve as me "manning up" and offering my sincerest apologies. I wish you godspeed on your journey to help new members use proper terms to fit in the hobby better.

I will be the first person to admit that i am a smart *** but my response was a serious one. You were the one that chose to use the word clip instead of magazine several times not me. If you were looking for a new recoil spring and you you called it a slide spring would you not want to be corrected so you could kind the right part? It is a common problem with gun owners that are new and that have been around guns for a long time to use the wrong terminology. Unless bersa is making a broomhandle mauser replica, bersa 10 round clips do not exist. Its like going to the auto parts store a trying to buy a carburetor when you need a throttle body. They have similar functions but are not the same thing. Im not offended by your comments but i do find it hypocritical that you are whining about my response assuming i was being a sarcastic douche bag by actually being a sarcastic douche bag.

[supertrooper]

BTW if you are looking for a kinder gentler gun forum experience try the akfiles. They will be more supportive of you emotional needs.