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  • Preacher84
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 674

    Pistol Bore Sighting tools

    Good Afternoon Ladies and Gents -

    I think that anyone that has owned a pistol knows that people will usually never adjust their iron sights, and if they do, there are three very common methodologies (See Fig.1) as to which is best.

    (Fig 1)


    I personally prefer "Sight Image 2" - but I am sure that this could be debated as to which is best. Now - how do you get that point? As I said earlier, most individuals will rely on however the factory sets it up. Don't believe me? Ask your friends how many adjustments have they made to their pistol sights?

    Think how many adjustments you have made to the optics on your rifle or shotgun? Why not the pistol?

    I was recently taking a defensive carry course through a local NorCal shooting club, and I started to realize just how much the majority of the populace over rates their shooting abilities with a handgun. At 15 feet, we were asked to shoot inside a ten 1in circles -once round each- 10 times. I made one. Then we were asked to shoot within the SAME circle 10 times. I made three. Last, we did the same test with our off hand, at 15 feet, and lets just say I didn't.

    After the course and swallowing my pride, I went and spoke to the top performing individuals in the course expecting to find red dots affixed upon their sidearms... only to find some standard sights and some adjustable sights. A healthy mix. I asked them how they got their weapons up to par and they said bore sighting your weapon will really help, and then adjusting off the point of impact versus your eye...

    Duh.?!

    So. I have been using in chamber bore-sights for every weapon I own except for shotguns and pistols. Now it is time for that to change.

    So. Has anyone used the following bore sights and can you give me an honest opinion on them? From reading, I hear it is best to zero at 7 yards, because the average engagement is between 3 and 10 yards - which is what I am going to do. I will be using Sight Picture two.

    Sightmark Laser Pistol Bore Sight http://www.sportsmansguide.com/produ...ghter?a=862749


    AimSHOT Last Bore Sights http://www.aimshot.com/borearbors.php


    Cabela's Professional Chamber Pistol Bore Sight http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabel...er/1178832.uts


    Any feedback would be awesome. I have not yet purchased any of these, but I wonder which one would be best. Yes I have read a ton of reviews, but I would rather see what others have used here first!

    Thank you!

    -A
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  • #2
    SonOfaDI
    Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 495

    Well I use something else that has worked well on glock, Rossi 38, ruger 10 22 it was this....



    I used it to get on paper then went from there.
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    • #3
      MrOrange
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 2262

      Yeppers, bore sighting is just to get you on the paper, and I never heard of anybody using it on a handgun. Then again, among the people I've shot with, I never heard of anybody not zeroing their sights on their handgun, with the exception of snub-nosed revolvers that would require cutting and welding. With the pistola in my sig I had to file down the front sight a bit to get it to print where I wanted.

      Spend some time practicing. Start at 25 yards, learn to shoot good groups. At 7 yards all your shots should be one big ragged hole.
      I meant, it is my opinion that...






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      • #4
        crs gns n thngs
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 79

        Good info i'll have to try.

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        • #5
          MrOrange
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 2262

          Forgot to add, I like to see where the shot is going to land, so I like this hold:

          I meant, it is my opinion that...






          I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
          I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
          You're my kind of stupid. - M. Reynolds

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          • #6
            Preacher84
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 674

            Originally posted by HopetonBrown
            You're missing at 5 yards because of trigger control, not sight picture or hold. If that were the case you'd still have a tight 10 shot group, just off center. Trigger control is the cause of most misses.

            Besides, what are you going to do? Buy different front sight heights and laser bore sight them all? That's a lot of time and money.

            Just sight your gun and and remember your hold. If you're worried about performance, which you certainly are, don't jump around between a bunch of guns.

            The bore sight isn't going to help with distance shooting either, as different bullet weights will have more of an effect with the heavier bullets printing higher.

            Sight your gun in at 25 yards. Use a NRA B8 repair center. Sighting in at 7 yards is too close; defensive shooting is not dependent on 1" deviation at 7 yards. Remember it will be different between bullet weights.

            My friends and I shoot 1" dots from 15 feet, but with a par time. First, 2.5 seconds from low ready. After you pass that, then it's from the holster. When I miss, it's not because of my sights, it's because of my trigger press. If you don't already own a shot timer, put the money you would've sunk into the bore sight laser into a quality shot timer. In self defense type shooting, getting the gun into play quicker is more important than being 1" off at 5 yards.
            I appreciate the comments - but this wasn't the point of the thread. I know I need more trigger time, we all do, but the point is zeroing a weapon that needs it.

            I have two firearms that I received in a trade - A Glock 22 and a USP .40. The Glock 22 had an RMR installed, and after noticing that they couldn't see the sights anymore, put suppressor sights on. They're visibly off, and if I am going to take the time align them, I will align them right. The USP .40 just had adjustable night sights put on them, and they have never been adjusted.

            Lets keep the comments on target - Thanks.
            Last edited by Preacher84; 01-18-2016, 4:42 PM.
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            • #7
              Preacher84
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 674

              Originally posted by SonOfaDI
              Well I use something else that has worked well on glock, Rossi 38, ruger 10 22 it was this....



              I used it to get on paper then went from there.
              Nice. I was looking at this one. When you were bore sighting, what range were you doing it at?
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              • #8
                Preacher84
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 674

                Originally posted by MrOrange
                Yeppers, bore sighting is just to get you on the paper, and I never heard of anybody using it on a handgun. Then again, among the people I've shot with, I never heard of anybody not zeroing their sights on their handgun, with the exception of snub-nosed revolvers that would require cutting and welding. With the pistola in my sig I had to file down the front sight a bit to get it to print where I wanted.

                Spend some time practicing. Start at 25 yards, learn to shoot good groups. At 7 yards all your shots should be one big ragged hole.
                You actually filed down your sight?! Haha I have never heard of anyone doing that.
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                • #9
                  Preacher84
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 674

                  Originally posted by MrOrange
                  Forgot to add, I like to see where the shot is going to land, so I like this hold:

                  Same.
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                  • #10
                    Pardini
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 1204

                    I don't know anyone who hasn't adjusted the sights on their handguns. Boresighting a handgun is a waste of time and money. Aim at your 7 yard target and adjust your sights until you get your group centered on the target with what ever hold you want to use. If you boresight there's only a slim chance that you won't need to do the above anyway once you start shooting offhand.
                    Originally Posted by OCEquestrian View Post
                    Excellent! I am thinking about it as well and I only have 4 points and an unfortunate "match bump" up to expert classification where I am far less "competitive" with my peers there.

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                    • #11
                      Preacher84
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 674

                      Originally posted by Pardini
                      I don't know anyone who hasn't adjusted the sights on their handguns. Boresighting a handgun is a waste of time and money. Aim at your 7 yard target and adjust your sights until you get your group centered on the target with what ever hold you want to use. If you boresight there's only a slim chance that you won't need to do the above anyway once you start shooting offhand.
                      Thank you - I appreciate the input. Again this thread is for discussing which bore sights people have used and which work best for them. I take it you haven't used any?
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                      • #12
                        ar15robert
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 2493

                        Why i prefer to shoot with one main handgun since most will have different point of aim.I shoot my colt with picture 2 if targets further i need to go to pic 3.

                        I know my gun and where to aim it at.

                        My glock 20 im still getting use to it but its not my main target gun anyways.

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                        • #13
                          Win231
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 2099

                          I really don't see the usefulness of bore sighting a defensive handgun.
                          Maybe it would be useful for a hunting handgun out to 150 yards or more.
                          I'll rest my wrists on the shooting bag & fire three or four rounds at 20-30 feet. It the group is at POA at that distance, it will still be pretty close at 15 yards. That's about as far as a defensive situation will ever be - at least in the home.

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                          • #14
                            usmcspud
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 709

                            Bore-sight a handgun? Never felt the need. (Been shootin handguns about 46 years.)

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                            • #15
                              usmcspud
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 709

                              Oh. Honest opinion? No. Proper trigger control learned by dry-firing will obviate the need for bore-sights.

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