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  • gmajor
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 21

    Uberti Cattleman - single action roster question

    I feel bad making a new thread about this, since my limited research suggests that I am allowed to buy and own this pistol in CA, but I'm really looking for confirmation. Is this gun CA legal? This will be my first pistol purchased in CA.

    Uberti Cattleman .45 Colt with a 4.75 inch barrel

    Anything to this except for simply buying, waiting, and picking up? I have a hunting license which substitutes for the firearm safety certificate when buying a long-gun. Will I need the handgun safety certificate? Can I take the test where I purchase the pistol (a retail establishment)? Sorry for the ignorance, I just feel better once I get the calgun feedback
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    ke6guj
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    32100. (a) Article 4 (commencing with Section 31900) and Article 5
    (commencing with Section 32000) shall not apply to a single-action
    revolver that has at least a five-cartridge capacity with a barrel
    length of not less than three inches, and meets any of the following
    specifications:
    (1) Was originally manufactured prior to 1900 and is a curio or
    relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of
    Federal Regulations.
    (2) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at
    least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver,
    and barrel are assembled.
    (3) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at
    least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver,
    and barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for
    importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions of
    paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18 of the
    United States Code.
    Jack



    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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    • #3
      orangeusa
      • Jul 2009
      • 9055

      Yup. Single action is exempt from roster. I will be buying a similiar gun in a week or so.

      You will find out of state sellers who will tell you it is off list or they don't deal with CA... All wrong.

      I don't have the CA statute wrt Single Action link. But you are GTG.

      EDIT : I must type slow. Ke6guj is on top of things as always.
      You will need a HSC which is almost the same test as the rifle test. You can take the test in most LGS quickly.

      OP - What prompted you to get the Cattleman? I'm leaning towards the Horseman, just to get the transfer bar..

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      Last edited by orangeusa; 01-12-2016, 10:45 PM.

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      • #4
        mikeyr
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 1554

        legal last year when I bought mine. I didn't question it since I found a local gun store that had it in stock.

        I don't mind carrying 5 rounds in my 6 shooter so I didn't want the transfer bar.
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        • #5
          heidad01
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 4902

          The roster does not include nor cares about single action revolvers. Buy all you want.

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            IVC
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 17594

            As others pointed out - you're good to go.

            Just a small correction on HSC: it is now called FSC (firearm safety certificate) and is required for both long guns and handguns. Otherwise, it's the same as the HSC used to be.

            A word of caution with out of state sellers. If they don't want to ship to CA, it's their prerogative. The state of CA requires additional paperwork for out of state sellers to do business with CA (not sure if it applies to private parties, or just FFLs) and many just don't want to bother because it's not worth it to them. It's not a matter of "it is legal," it's a matter of "they don't want to do it."
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              gmajor
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 21

              Awesome, thanks guys! I'm able to avoid the FSC with my hunting license - is this still the case when buying a handgun? I'll buy from an in-state retailer.

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              • #8
                ke6guj
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                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                Originally posted by gmajor
                Awesome, thanks guys! I'm able to avoid the FSC with my hunting license - is this still the case when buying a handgun? I'll buy from an in-state retailer.
                nope. FSC exemption with hunting license only extends to longguns, not handguns.
                Jack



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                • #9
                  ke6guj
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                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 23725

                  Originally posted by heidad01
                  The roster does not include nor cares about single action revolvers. Buy all you want.
                  not entirely accurate. the roster does include some single-action revolvers. only those SA revolvers that meet the exemption listed above are exempt. all others must be roster-tested if they want to be sold in CA.
                  Jack



                  Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

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                  • #10
                    IVC
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 17594

                    Originally posted by ke6guj
                    only those SA revolvers that meet the exemption listed above are exempt.
                    Which is why we can get any Chiappa Rhino EXCEPT the shorty 20/200/D/DS.
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                    • #11
                      gmajor
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 21

                      Originally posted by ke6guj
                      nope. FSC exemption with hunting license only extends to longguns, not handguns.
                      Wonderful. Are most gun stores able to facilitate the FSC test, or are they running low on tests still?

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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
                        Moderator
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                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        they never "run out of tests" now since the cert is just printed off the internet.
                        Jack



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                        • #13
                          1859sharps
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2261

                          Originally posted by mikeyr
                          I don't mind carrying 5 rounds in my 6 shooter so I didn't want the transfer bar.
                          and if you are just plinking at the range then loading all 6 rounds isn't an issue in many cases.

                          in a lot of cases most of us will never be using/carrying a single action six shooter without a transfer bar safety in a situation where loading keeping an empty chamber is even an issue. load up all six, have fun.

                          HOWEVER.....use common sense of course as there are activities were keeping the hammer on an empty chamber is a very good idea.

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                            CSACANNONEER
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                            Originally posted by IVC
                            Which is why we can get any Chiappa Rhino EXCEPT the shorty 20/200/D/DS.
                            A little ingenuity is all it takes. Think about using some chamber inserts and a barrel insert to make length.
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                            • #15
                              Revhendo
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 521

                              Originally posted by 1859sharps
                              and if you are just plinking at the range then loading all 6 rounds isn't an issue in many cases.

                              in a lot of cases most of us will never be using/carrying a single action six shooter without a transfer bar safety in a situation where loading keeping an empty chamber is even an issue. load up all six, have fun.

                              HOWEVER.....use common sense of course as there are activities were keeping the hammer on an empty chamber is a very good idea.
                              For me, I am such a simple man that I only load five as a deeply ingrained habit. I've loaded six before and it felt so weird.....

                              Oh, I have a Cimarron Model P in .357. Big flame and grins with the magnum round and a easy cheap shooter with .38 special. Something to think about.
                              Rev.

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