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  • Viliphied
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 6

    Good non-subcompact CC guns?

    Trying to find a good first carry gun, but I'm really wary about subcompacts. I'm a bigger guy, and subcompacts don't fit my hands well.

    I would also a prefer a gun with a .22 variation, both for my own practice, and so I can teach my daughter how to shoot on a gun with controls in the same place as mine (which I'm sure would eventually become hers as I acquire more) when she's old enough.

    Looking for something in the $4-700 range, and I'm not philosophically opposed to buying used. Prefer 9mm but not married to it.

    Thanks in advance.
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    hossb7
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 3285

    Glock 19
    M&P9
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    • #3
      Albs
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 2158

      Originally posted by hossb7
      Glock 19
      M&P9
      Bingo, you'll either love one or the other.

      You'll probably love the Glock ...
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      • #4
        BucDan
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4063

        SR9 is also an option. And S&W line of polymer.

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        • #5
          Viliphied
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 6

          Originally posted by hossb7
          Glock 19
          M&P9
          I really like what I've been seeing/hearing about the M&P9, but I'm having a hell of a time finding one. Shields seem to be everywhere, regular M&P9s, not so much.

          My wife has her heart set on a 19, I kind of want something different. I'd like to expand my collection.
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          • #6
            Cokebottle
            Señor Member
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2009
            • 32373

            Originally posted by Viliphied
            I really like what I've been seeing/hearing about the M&P9, but I'm having a hell of a time finding one. Shields seem to be everywhere, regular M&P9s, not so much.

            My wife has her heart set on a 19, I kind of want something different. I'd like to expand my collection.
            Shield is the only one left on the roster, so the full size (meaning doublestack) M&P can only be had by PPT.
            The only S&W 9mm other than the Shield left on the roster is the SD9

            For "compact".... these are all doublestack:
            Glock 26
            Springfield XD 3"
            H&K P2000
            Ruger SR9C

            These would still be considered "compact" rather than "subcompact" even though they are the smallest offerings from those companies. All of the above are double stack and will hold 10 rounds
            As small as the G26 is, keep in mind that the .45cal 10rd G30 is about the same size and a fraction of an inch thicker.
            Having larger hands, it's really the thickness of the grip that you are going to "feel", aside from your pinky not having purchase.

            .22 conversion kit?
            Generally not worth it at this level.
            The cost of the conversion kits are several hundred... nearly what you can buy a .22 for.
            The conversion kits become "worth it" when you get into the 1911 and other $1200+ guns.
            Last edited by Cokebottle; 01-10-2016, 1:28 AM.
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            • #7
              Powder_Keg
              Senior Member
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2013
              • 2203

              Glock 19
              or
              M&P Shield with pinky extension on the magazine

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              • #8
                BoJackUSMC
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2010
                • 7091

                Glock 19 gets my vote as well...

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                • #9
                  GlockN'Roll
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 3738

                  Originally posted by BoJackUSMC
                  Glock 19 gets my vote as well...
                  http://www.glockmeister.com/Advantag...fo/AACLE19-23/

                  Used g19 and .22 conversion right at around $700....
                  Real Californian...

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                  • #10
                    Beendare
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 598

                    FWIW, I'm not a fan of the conversion thing...... and its expensive.

                    IMO, Buy a good Browning Buckmark .22 then another dedicated mid size and be done with it.

                    My .22 [a S&W which I don't recommend] is my most shot pistol with newbies, kids and myself....22's are just flat out fun and cheap to shoot.

                    i have big hands.... the Glock 19 [ I have the 23] is a good size for a small pistol....its all about practicing your grip, IMO. You can get mag extensions and make those work pretty good.

                    i also just bought the shield and surprisingly I can shoot it OK after fiddling with my grip. I hated the shield trigger, long take up which works against guys with big hands, it need s a forward trigger, IMO Apex on order.

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                    • #11
                      Mossy Man
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 7641

                      i find the concept of "22 for practice" is overrated when using as a "stand in" for a larger platform with "same controls".

                      practice with the POI, recoil, and noise level you are going to be using for defense/carry.

                      get youths and women on 9mm first, load one round at a time.

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                      • #12
                        GlockN'Roll
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 3738

                        I would agree that a good .22 pistol is a better choice than a conversion kit.

                        And you get two separate pistols.

                        Twice the pistols, twice the fun...
                        Real Californian...

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                        • #13
                          farmerjoe
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1014

                          H&K USPc .45
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                          • #14
                            seasnake
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 210

                            This is a loaded question with a high capacity answer .

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                            • #15
                              raptor51518
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 1

                              Springfield Armory Range Officer Champion. Or Compact. In 9mm. It's a dream to shoot, easy to put slimline grips on if you think it's too "fat", reliable as all get out, and simple. Don't mind if it gets a ding or two. Good capacity, great for big handed people (yours truly) and yet easy enough to conceal.

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