Weaver Stance Is Obsolete?!

[ipser]

According to world champion shooter, Jerry Miculek, the Weaver stance is obsolete and the icocolese is back in style.

Jerry is not just making a competitive shooting argument but saying that it's superior for self defense too.



Other sources are more nuanced:

Guns and Ammo

American Rifleman

[target_shot]

I do tend to agree........

Especially if the shooter is wearing body armor

[Lead Waster]

I do tend to agree........

Especially if the shooter is wearing body armor

yeah, from what I've read on the net (take it with a grain of salt) with weaver and body armor, you are exposing your unprotected side to the threat. With isoceles and body armor, you are presenting the front of your body armor.

But also, you can more easily swivel to face threats to either side easier than with weaver.

BUT ... Weaver looks way cooler on TV, especially if you yell out "Clear!" every 10 seconds ...

[MXRider]

1991 called, they want their headline back.

Professionals figured it out a long time ago. Modern training techniques are all teaching you to square off to your target and bring the gun up into your vision and "work space".

[Angrysnarf]

I use weaver I am horrible in icocolese

[Kestryll]

Want to know what is obsolete?
'Fashion Trends' in shooting.

Use what works for you, what you're most comfortable with and what fits your needs.
If someone doesn't like it or some pro says it doesn't work, screw 'em if it's working for you.

See how simple that was?

[NinjaNinja]

Umm it varies on the situation. But that guy is right, and damn can he put rounds down in a hurry. Holy crap.

[Barbarosa]

You mean the gansta' side grip isn't best???

As Barbarosa said, "Always stand still. Nothin' scares a man more than for you to be standin' still when you should be runnin' like a spotted assed ape."

[Old4eyes]

BUT ... Weaver looks way cooler on TV, especially if you yell out "Clear!" every 10 seconds ...

My dad would yell out "Clear" before starting his airplane, he wasn't in Weaver stance. Can't say it was Isocolese either.

[JustEd]

I don't know if the Weaver is obsolete but most teach the modified iscoclese now.

[oath-keeper]

I agree, this video is worth watching.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jUfmpXGXcM0&annotation_id=54fbd75e-0000-2f08-8a2f-001a11487b60&feature=iv&src_vid=2a3SHZVcSYI

[1911ShooterPhil]

Here's an article describing the shooting stances...

https://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/training/articles/7981637-The-3-shooting-stances-Which-ones-right-for-you/

But, it's not all about stance...

http://www.gundigest.com/guns/handgun-reviews-articles/tactical_combathandgunsecrets

When I went through military basic and military advanced training, and later when I did various law enforcement training, plus all of my instruction by the many gun trainers I've had...I learned Weaver stance. You want to provide a narrow target to your opponent. Combat shooting is not target shooting. If I have time to set up a shot, it'd be isosceles. But, all else, it'd be Weaver.

Cheers! --1911ShooterPhil

[Ronin2]

1991 called, they want their headline back.

Professionals figured it out a long time ago. Modern training techniques are all teaching you to square off to your target and bring the gun up into your vision and "work space".

No not all...unless you limit yourself to the YouTube trainers and internet masters

You mean the gansta' side grip isn't best???

That would be the "Spike Lee high ready!

I don't know if the Weaver is obsolete but most teach the modified iscocleseisosceles now.

What is "modified isosceles?

[k1dude]

Everyone is different. Use what works for you.

Some like Weaver. Some like isosceles. Some like modified Weaver. Find out which you personally like.

[lakersfan]

I used the iscoclese for the first time last weekend at the range and did much better than the weaver or modified weaver.