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  • #16
    Sikvenum93
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 2181

    Originally posted by slipinkramer
    I had this exact problem with a very similarly designed .380 blowback pistol I bought new in 1996. (it was a Sig Sauer not a Bersa). I took the magazine apart and stretched the magazine spring to about 150% of its original length, then de-burred the feed shuttle edges and corners. I applied the tiniest possible amount of gun grease to the inside walls of the magazine and then reassembled it. That solved my feeding problem forever and it has been a totally solid, reliable joy to shoot ever since.

    I'm not recommending you take your factory magazine do this although its not very hard to do. I just thought the solution to my gun's "after 4 feeding issue" might be of interest you.

    slipinkramer
    Thanks i got 3 mags so i'll definitely give that a try.

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    • #17
      Old4eyes
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1749

      Bersa owner here, two thoughts.

      The recoil spring is not symmetrical. One end is slightly larger than the other. The one that fits tightest goes to the breach end of the barrel, the loose side to the muzzle.

      On my Firestorm I found that the breach face was not milled correctly and the area right next to the tip of the extractor was higher than the rest of the breach. This caused cartridges to tilt to the left. Pull the slide off, put a cartridge under the extractor and see how it fits.

      On my Thunder, I replaced the safety/decocker when it broke. I started having feed problems when I hadn't before. When I sent in for repair the gunsmith (who is reputable) stated he couldn't induce a problem with 90 rounds, including a magazine worth being shot by his 10 year old son. Maybe I ran out of Wheaties for a while. I really concentrate on not limp wristing it now but it may be a matter of concern.
      Send Lawyers, Guns and Money - On second thought, hold the Lawyers.

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      • #18
        Horrendo Revolver
        Senior Member
        • May 2015
        • 1013

        The elephant in the room. Send it back to Bersa for them to fix. Or is there some rule or regulation in California which makes this difficult?

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        • #19
          Old4eyes
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1749

          Some manufacturers, I can think of Sig and Springfield, had misgivings on sending back to California guns that were not (or never had been) on the roster. Probably someone from Kamala's staff had made veiled threats on the issue. For Springfield it was prompted during the XDS recall and for Sig, some had reported problems when contacting Sig for warranty repair.

          Shouldn't be a problem for the OP, that gun is a Bersa Firestorm, not a Bersa Thunder. The Firestorm is on the roster, the Thunder is not. Not that it matters, as long as the serial number on the gun doesn't change it's not a new gun.
          Last edited by Old4eyes; 01-04-2016, 1:14 PM.
          Send Lawyers, Guns and Money - On second thought, hold the Lawyers.

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          • #20
            dwtt
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7470

            Originally posted by hambam105
            Why aren't the people who claim these Bersa's to be of good value posting remedies to OP?
            I have a Bersa Thunder 9 compact and don't have the problem the OP has. Maybe it's because I got a 9mm, but I can't post a remedy for a problem I didn't experience. Ask me about fixing keyholing problems shooting coated bullets through a stock Glock and I can offer a remedy.

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            • #21
              RedFord150
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2009
              • 5665

              Originally posted by Sikvenum93
              I bought this Bersa Firestorm 380 brand new awhile back and I put about 500+ rounds through it and tried 3 different magazines and it still jams. It always misfeeds on the 4-5th round with every magazine without fail and with all types of ammo.(steel, brass, nickel plated, fmj, jhp, etc.) I'm on the verge of just giving up and selling this. Any ideas? ...
              Before you do anything, take it to a local Gunsmith and have it checked out. It could be a simple problem that someone who is familiar with the gun could easily spot. You might even contact Bersa directly and ask if they have someone local to you they could recommend.

              Originally posted by hambam105
              Why aren't the people who claim these Bersa's to be of good value posting remedies to OP?
              As a long-time Bersa owner, I recommend using factory magazines. The ProMags are hit and miss. Other than a lousy after-market magazine, mine has been trouble free. I cannot suggest a remedy for a problem I have never experienced.

              The Bersa is a great value. If you do not agree with me, you should buy something else. Not every gun is perfect for every shooter.
              God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.

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              • #22
                code_blue
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 3452

                Had a new shooter with BNIB Bersa do the exact same thing. Limpwristing was the culprit. Corrected his grip then not one issue after.

                Change your grip or better yet, post photos of how you hold the pistol. Just mock photos with someone else taking the photos from your left and right side.

                I see a revolver on the table. Revolver guys that switch to semis believe they know how to shoot/hold semis, but they don't. It's a different animal especially when the animal gives the old, revolver shooters slide bite.
                Last edited by code_blue; 01-04-2016, 2:36 PM.
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                • #23
                  Pipe Smoker
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 92

                  In a lethal threat situation, you might limp-wrist the pistol even if you don't do so at the range, so I wouldn't trust a pistol that's sensitive to limp-wristing. I've verified that my SIG P238 .380 cycles reliably, even when deliberately limp-wristed. 900+ rounds with only one early-on cycling issue.

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                  • #24
                    RedFord150
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 5665

                    Originally posted by anbu_yoshi
                    ...It's a different animal especially when the animal gives the old, revolver shooters slide bite.
                    The Bersa Thunder has a nice "Beaver-Tail". This does a perfect job of preventing "Slide Bite". Not sure about the Firestorm.

                    My Bersa has been fired by several newbies, including a few women, with no issues at all. I am not aware that limp-wristing is an issue with the Thunder. This is the first time I have heard this claim.
                    God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.

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                    • #25
                      dachupacabra
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 8

                      Oddly, same thing happened with my Bersa Thunder .380 yesterday, for the first time. It was constantly jamming, where it had been perfection prior to this.

                      My culprit might be ammo, though. Bought cheap reloads online and you get what you pay for. After about 5 straight times clearing the feed, the trigger wouldn't even reset. Seems okay now after a cleaning, but I have yet to go back to the range to see if it's okay. I'm going to deal with the devil and buy ammo at the range to test, just to make sure it's the reloads...

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                      • #26
                        slipinkramer
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 17

                        Well,

                        Half the time the problem is the magazine.

                        Let's face it. The magazine is half the auto-loading gun. The best tuned pistol with a crap magazine will make you wish for a pot metal Hi-Point that loads every round.

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                        • #27
                          jeremyro
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1294

                          I have the same gun, it is actually surprisingly accurate, bit would have feed issues till I manned up and put some weight behind it. It really is sensitive to limp wrist

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                          • #28
                            code_blue
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3452

                            Originally posted by RedFord150
                            The Bersa Thunder has a nice "Beaver-Tail". This does a perfect job of preventing "Slide Bite". Not sure about the Firestorm.

                            My Bersa has been fired by several newbies, including a few women, with no issues at all. I am not aware that limp-wristing is an issue with the Thunder. This is the first time I have heard this claim.

                            The Firestorm and Thunder are essentially the same gun, just with different names for different markets and a few other knick knacks.

                            The slide bite comes from the old revolver, support thumb behind the hammer hold so a beaver tail wouldn't help there.
                            Last edited by code_blue; 01-04-2016, 4:04 PM.
                            Classifieds:

                            Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                            • #29
                              Sikvenum93
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 2181

                              Originally posted by dachupacabra
                              Oddly, same thing happened with my Bersa Thunder .380 yesterday, for the first time. It was constantly jamming, where it had been perfection prior to this.

                              My culprit might be ammo, though. Bought cheap reloads online and you get what you pay for. After about 5 straight times clearing the feed, the trigger wouldn't even reset. Seems okay now after a cleaning, but I have yet to go back to the range to see if it's okay. I'm going to deal with the devil and buy ammo at the range to test, just to make sure it's the reloads...
                              I've never used reloads in my gun only new ammo. Tulaammo, pmc, perfecta, prvi partizan, and they all jam.

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                              • #30
                                slipinkramer
                                Junior Member
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 17

                                Try giving it the grip of Thor next time you shoot it. Maybe a super firm grip will help.

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