XD-m 45 Failure to Feed

[XDJYo]

Hi All,

Looking for your collective help. Never had an issue with this gun. It's a 4.5" XD-m in 45 ACP. Has probably 1,000-ish rounds thru it at the most? Not 100% sure since I'm the second owner. Previous owner said he fired 300 rounds (but don't they all?).

Had several back to back failures to feed Saturday at the range. The round would nose-dive into the feedramp in the frame of the gun. It would feed the round normally if I loaded from a slide lock. But, it would jam once I started to shoot the gun. It didn't matter which round it was. It happened with 2 different mags-One came with the gun and the other is a fresh new factory mag with maybe 300-400 rounds thru that particular mag.

I was shooting Freedom Munitions Remanufactured 230 grain FMJ. The gun was freshly cleaned and lightly lubed with Ballistol. Prior to shooting the Freedom Munitions, I shot 20 rounds of my reloads problem free. (4.8 grains Bullseye with 230 grain Berrys FMJ). As soon as I switched to the FM, it started to jam.

I know most will lay claim to the FM remanufactured, but I've shot several thousand rounds thru my 1911's and also a few hundred thru my XD-m with zero issues.

Any other ideas?

Thank you to the collective CG experience!

Happy shooting and be safe.

And of course, pics...

[FeuerFrei]

Measure the known good rounds against the failing rounds and see if the remans are out of spec/different length.
I'd bet it's the ammo.
FM are usually gtg but mistakes can/do happen with all ammo manufacturers.

[Zorgnot]

I think you found your answer. My guess is the FM ammo is a bit too light for your gun. Maybe try a couple of other brands to confirm. I'm no expert though. An old recoil spring could also be the issue. I had a Kimber with about 1200 rounds through it that started having issues. I changed the recoil spring and all was well. Except from the part where I bought a Kimber

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[scoobydo]

Re-manufactured is hit or miss. They could be excellent forever and then go through a phase when all their stuff is garbage.
Just depends on where they are getting their supplies.
I would get a box of factory FMJ and try that first. Then you could eliminate the ammo.

[5ZS]

The nose dive is a know symptom/issue for the regular XD with SCW bullets, but it should work for the M.
So my guess, case extraction taps on your next brass lip = nose dive = ammo is out of spec for the M. Either case lip is bulgy or bullet seated short.

FM seems to be a common denominator in 2015 and good start to 2016 for gun issues, so I would start troubleshooting there.

Oh, constant nose dive will eventually jack up your XD magazine and it will not drop free anymore.

[XDJYo]

Thanks for all of the replies. Seems like the resounding opinion is that the finger is pointing at FM. I almost bought a box of factory ammo to shoot and see, but the cold and hunger (it was lunchtime) won out, so I packed it in for the day. And, I was craving a nice juicy burger thanks to the other CG In & Out burger thread...

I'll have to pull another box from the same lot and see what I get.

I've heard of FM being loaded a bit light, but that's mostly been in 9 mm from what I've heard. Never heard of issues in 45. I guess I'm the first! LOL!

Wasn't sure if I wanted to mess with trying more ammo or just sending it off to SA to see if they can diagnose any issues.

Thanks all and happy shooting and be safe!

[BoJackUSMC]

Try using federal and winchester fmj before calling SA for help.

[JTROKS]

If you're getting weak extraction of the fired case as in they are falling just by your feet. FM ammo might have insufficient pressure to cycle your slide back all the way. Did you change your recoil spring?

[XDJYo]

I'll give some factory fresh ammo a try before I call SA.

The cases did extract and were a few feet away. All pretty consistent. None dribbled out of the gun like my wife's Gen 4 G19! It was tough to really say since some of the cases hit the walls of the stall I was in.

For the record, the cases were a little on the long side. They measured anywhere between 1.262 to 1.268" +/-.

Recoil spring is the original. I hope that the spring isn't worn out already.

One thing I forgot to mention, is that I took the gun apart and cleaned off the barrel feed ramp and the smaller feed ramp on the frame of the gun and tried again and it still jammed.

[JTROKS]

I usually keep my 230 grn ball loads to 1.260' COAL.

I just measured some factory ball ammo and they are 1.262" - 1.266", so your COAL should be right.

Did you disassemble your magazines and maybe put the spring in backwards? I take that back. Forgot you said it was fine with your reloads.

[XDJYo]

I usually keep my 230 grn ball loads to 1.260' COAL.

I just measured some factory ball ammo and they are 1.262" - 1.266", so your COAL should be right.

Did you disassemble your magazines and maybe put the spring in backwards?

They didn't seem overly long, but perhaps getting towards the max OAL end of things.

Haven't messed with the mags. I always wipe them down after shooting with a dry rag. No oil or lube ever. The mags have functioned great until 2016! Lol!


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[Carcassonne]

Looks like it might be a weak mag spring or the mag spring is binding up on something.

Do you have original 10 round magazines or blocked 13 round magazines?



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[XDJYo]

XD-m 45 Failure to Feed

Looks like it might be a weak mag spring or the mag spring is binding up on something.

Do you have original 10 round magazines or blocked 13 round magazines?



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They're factory 10 round mags. One is brand new and the other is the original that came with the gun.

They both fed my reloads fine. As soon as I switched to FM remanufactured, I started having problems. I am hoping it is just the ammo.


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ETA: those happened regardless of what round it was-i.e. Wasn't a last round failure to feed.

[RedRiderF26]

I just started buying FM remans 45 acp and have been having problems too with my 1911

[Carcassonne]

They're factory 10 round mags. One is brand new and the other is the original that came with the gun.

They both fed my reloads fine. As soon as I switched to FM remanufactured, I started having problems. I am hoping it is just the ammo.


ETA: those happened regardless of what round it was-i.e. Wasn't a last round failure to feed.

Since you have a reloading press and dies, if you don't feel like sending the ammo back to FM you can try seating/pushing the bullet into the case another 0.050" to 2.000" -2.010" 1.200" to 1.210". That will increase pressure, velocity, and muzzle energy. The increased muzzle energy should help open the slide. You shouldn't have to worry about over pressure since the FM sounds like it is under-pressure to start with.


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