Sig P226 vs CZ SP-01

[osis32]

I prefer the cz to the Sig but both are pretty sweet. I find I get back on target faster with the cz though.

[MXRider]

I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying about the CZ trigger. I would like to have the gun worked on at some point by Cajun. Nothing crazy, just a little enhancement. I still want it to be a reliable duty grade pistol and not a competition gun.

From what I understand the decocker models have worse triggers than the safety versions.

[tankton]

I don't know why people still say the CZ bore axis is low and the Sig is high. I have both (and many others). Both are high. CZ may be "somewhat lower than usual" for a hammerfired pistol, yet it has nothing on a Glock, M&P, Kahr, etc. It is barely lower than a Beretta PX4 (which I also have)!

The measurable difference in bore axis height between my P229 and P01 is 2-3 millimeters, at the most.

I'll readily grant, the E2 grips of my Sig do force your hand lower than the usual Sig grips (and the standard grips are on the way), though my P01 has a beavertail that allows a higher grip than a similar CZ75 compact (part of why I chose the P01 over the CZ75 compact, given that both were on sale in the LGS; I suspect a P229 with a beavertail will allow for a higher grip, as well). The wide top end of the Sig grip (wide enough to fit the decocker under the grip panel) really exaggerates any visual difference in bore axis (CZ avoids this by putting the decocker elsewhere).

I'll also admit, the CZ P01's grip is a bit small for me (it's smaller than the E2 grip on my P229, mostly due to grip geometry), which innately leads me to favor the P229. However, like the usual pro-CZ arguments, I agree they are nice for their pricepoint. I like my P229 better, even as I'm aware it cost nearly 50% more than the CZ P01.


TL;DR, both bore axis' are way higher than a Glock, as to make the minute height difference between the two absolutely meaningless, IMO. What little height difference exists in the real world, is also visually exaggerated.

[galaxius]

Bacon is not on the roster.


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Bacon is known to the state of California to cause cancer and has been banned by name as well as aesthetic and flavor features. You can however buy featureless bacon (manufactured from Turkey/Misc meat), but we all know it just aint the same.

[maylebox]

The Sig P226 comes in a DA/SA decocker configuration and is on the CA roster. The CZ version would be the SP-01 Tactical which is not on the roster so unless you are able to acquire on via PPT our only choice is the DA/SA manual safety SP-01. Although you can train to safely decock the SP-01 manually. Another deciding factor is the bore axis is on the high on the P226. On the CZ SP-01 the bore axis is on the other end of the spectrum which is very low. The lower bore axis allows for minimal muzzle flip whereas the higher bore axis will invoke more muzzle flip which to me is a big difference in the shooting physics between the two guns. So in gun games where you have to engage in multiple strings of targets the lower bore axis will allow you to get back on target faster with more lower split times. Sure you can train yourself to be proficient with the Sig, but the CZ has the advantage here. Some may complain about the minimal realestate to grip and rack the slide on the CZ being so low. For me it has never been an issue, which also tells me it's a training issue.

In the ergo department if the Sig has the E2 grips I would say it is almost as ergonomic as the CZ rubber grips but the CZ still wins in that department. For me I prefer the control orientation on the CZ, it feels more natural to me in it's configuration or also that I got used to where they are. I have never owned a P226 but have owned 2 P229s and one P220 but at one point tried both non beaver tailed frame and a beavertail frame which I preferred. Another factor for me is that most of the Sig pistols frames are aluminum alloy unless you acquire the stainless models which are off roster, which you have to take extra care to not gall. The extra weight of steel also helps in making the CZ a soft shooter. I personally prefer to have a beaver tail frame which the Sig elite models have and all CZs have. It's another bracing point in your grip to mitigate muzzle flip. My experience with the non beaver tailed P220 was that it would dig into the web of my hand with the more pronounced muzzle flip, my 97B in this aspect shoots better for me. Out of the box the Sig trigger is more refined, as far as tuning the fire control group I prefer the CZ, which I have become familiar with and feel it has the most potential for a superior trigger. I prefer the Sig to have the short reset trigger as well as the CZ. For pro tuning you have Bruce Gray of Gray Guns for Sig and Stuart Wong and CZ gunsmiths of CZ Custom, David or "Schmecky" of CGW, and Mathew Mink of Automatic Accuracy. All are excellent choices for professional tuning of your CZ.

They are both great platforms and they both have a very strong following here in CGN so it's a matter of preference. Many here will or currently own both. I kind of miss my P229 EE, maybe another one in my future but without the LCI and mag disconnect by replacing the slide exchange kit and removing the mag disconnect two unnecessary so-called safety features.

I was going to say go with the CZ because it's shinier but his answer is better. Nice post CAGLS.

[MosinVirus]

Which one would you get and why?

Sold my 226 and 220, because I couldn't get my thumb off the slide stop lever. Never had lock on empty as result of riding that lever. Annoyed the crap out of me. Pistol performance is about the same with my limited skillset.

[CAGLS]

It's not just the physical aspect of the bore axis but differences in amount of force the muzzle torques upward when the gun is fired with the same power and bullet weight.

Here's my P229 EE I miss having:

I don't know why people still say the CZ bore axis is low and the Sig is high. I have both (and many others). Both are high. CZ may be "somewhat lower than usual" for a hammerfired pistol, yet it has nothing on a Glock, M&P, Kahr, etc. It is barely lower than a Beretta PX4 (which I also have)!

The measurable difference in bore axis height between my P229 and P01 is 2-3 millimeters, at the most.

I'll readily grant, the E2 grips of my Sig do force your hand lower than the usual Sig grips (and the standard grips are on the way), though my P01 has a beavertail that allows a higher grip than a similar CZ75 compact (part of why I chose the P01 over the CZ75 compact, given that both were on sale in the LGS; I suspect a P229 with a beavertail will allow for a higher grip, as well). The wide top end of the Sig grip (wide enough to fit the decocker under the grip panel) really exaggerates any visual difference in bore axis (CZ avoids this by putting the decocker elsewhere).

I'll also admit, the CZ P01's grip is a bit small for me (it's smaller than the E2 grip on my P229, mostly due to grip geometry), which innately leads me to favor the P229. However, like the usual pro-CZ arguments, I agree they are nice for their pricepoint. I like my P229 better, even as I'm aware it cost nearly 50% more than the CZ P01.


TL;DR, both bore axis' are way higher than a Glock, as to make the minute height difference between the two absolutely meaningless, IMO. What little height difference exists in the real world, is also visually exaggerated.

[ifilef]

Easy choice if one is left-handed: SP-01.

[jsigone]

I own both, the SP01 goes to the range or desert every time.

Both are highly accurate, the CZ shoots a bit faster making drills funner
CGW parts vs SRT equip'd 226

[customiiguy]

Just get both!

[RR.44]

Bacon, Bacon and more Bacon.
I have to agree with what someone else said, CGW SP01s are very nice to shoot, SP01 Shadows are a cut above right out of the box. Standard SP01 can't hold a candle to a stock 226.

Rich

[Mr. Patis]

I had both...sold the sig..i didn't like the grip.

[Too Swole]

Both guns are awesome. With that said I prefer the Sig.

[dyson]

everyone should have both

if choosing b/w CA LCI sig, go CZ

[robtan]

I voted CZ. Had a p220 shot many 226s. While it is no question fit and finish of the sig is excellent I just don't like aluminum framed guns. The CZ, in my opinion, is the better shooter. Easier to control, thanks to bore axis, and the controls are in the right place for me. Parts are harder to come by but CZ USA makes it a littler easier. I will say Sig Sauer customer service is the absolute best in the industry and I would buy another one of their products for that alone.