HK USP Compact "Can be converted to any of nine trigger firing modes"

[King of the 109ers]

http://hk-usa.com/hk-models/usp-compact

WTF are they trying to say?

DA/SA, DA only, SA only? and what else?

Some of the pics show the bobbed hammer, some look striker fired w/out hammer.

Is it just me or is it that the bigger the corp the worst the website?

[farmerjoe]

from Wikipedia

Variants 1 and 2 (double action/single action, decocking and safety lever)
Variants 1 (lever on left) and 2 (lever on right) allow the user to carry the pistol in a single-action mode (cocked and locked) with the manual safety engaged. This same pistol, without modification, can be carried in double-action mode, with or without the manual safety engaged, and with the benefit of a decocking lever.

Variants 3 and 4 (double action/single action, decocking lever, but no safety)
Variants 3 (lever on left) and 4 (lever on right) provide the user with a frame-mounted decocking lever that does not have the "safe" position. This combination only allows the hammer to be lowered from SA position to DA position. It does not provide the "safe" position to prevent the pistol from firing when the trigger is pulled.
Variants 5 and 6 (double action only, with safety lever)
For the double-action-only user, variants 5 (lever on left), 6 (lever on right), and of the USP operate as double-action-only pistols, with a bobbed hammer always returning to the DA position (forward) after each shot is fired. To fire each shot, the trigger must be pulled through the smooth DA trigger pull.
Variants 5 and 6 have a manual safety lever.
Variant 7 (double-action only, no control lever)
No control lever is provided on variant 7.
Variant 8 Never produced.
Variants 9 and 10 (double-action/single-action, safety lever, but no decocking)
Variants 9 (lever on left) and 10 (lever on right) allow the shooter to carry the pistol in a single-action mode (cocked and locked) with the manual safety engaged. This same pistol, without modification, can be carried in double-action mode (hammer down), with or without the manual safety engaged. The double-action mode offers a second-strike/double-action capability in case of a misfire. The control lever has no decocking function on variants 9 and 10, so one would have to carefully lower the hammer manually (or keep the safety on, remove the magazine, and eject any round in the chamber before lowering the hammer).
LEM (Law Enforcement Modification) Trigger (aka: Combat Defense Action)
Developed especially for the U.S. government, the Law Enforcement Modification (or LEM for short), is a USP DAO (Double-Action Only) model with a unique trigger mechanism. This mechanism improves the double-action trigger performance and reduces the weight of the DAO trigger pull to 7.5–8.5 pounds-force (33–38 N), uses a stronger hammer spring, and shortens the trigger reset. Aside from the LEM mechanism, it is identical to the USP Variant 7 (DAO) model.

[Creampuff]

http://hk-usa.com/hk-models/usp-compact



Some of the pics show the bobbed hammer, some look striker fired w/out hammer.

Negative, the HK USP series are all hammer fired.

[King of the 109ers]

from Wikipedia

thx, now what is "control lever"?

"Variant 7 (double-action only, no control lever)
No control lever is provided on variant 7."

is that same as "safety lever"?

[ChuckW]

The control lever can be a safety or decocker or both, depending on the configuration.

[Creampuff]

thx, now what is "control lever"?

"Variant 7 (double-action only, no control lever)
No control lever is provided on variant 7."

is that same as "safety lever"?

On a variant #1, the lever when pushed up, flips the safety on. Pushing down, results in decocking the firearm.

[offrdmania]

The variants come from different contract builds and the requests of that particular contract buyer. Most contracts are for police forces or military around the world, not the civilian market. Civilian models may only see 1 or 2 of the variants

[P5Ret]

The variants come from different contract builds and the requests of that particular contract buyer. Most contracts are for police forces or military around the world, not the civilian market. Civilian models may only see 1 or 2 of the variants

That's not quite accurate. You can/could order in any of variants, most were shipped as either V1 or V3, but the conversion parts are available and easy to change. H&K was and still is kind of a pain in the butt when it comes to purchasing parts, Brownell's has the plate's for under $10.

[caliberetta]

That's what one of the main reasons I really prefer HK pistols that's different from the rest... you have quite a range of choices to configure the trigger with proprietary parts according to your preference.

[MXRider]

That's not quite accurate. You can/could order in any of variants, most were shipped as either V1 or V3, but the conversion parts are available and easy to change. H&K was and still is kind of a pain in the butt when it comes to purchasing parts, Brownell's has the plate's for under $10.

I ordered some mags from HK about a year ago and they were very easy to deal with.

[timbo399]

I love the V1, have a HKUSP9c and surprised I have resisted buying a second. Only HK I own. Personally have always relied on my 1911's for .45 and various Beretta 92's, S&W M&P etc for 9 mm. But I do love that HK- looks like beaten up and been through a lot from previous owner- but doesn't bother me when bought used and saw it- I know will still shoot great and last my lifetime.

I don't CCW but to me it's that perfect in between size you could carry concealed no problem but when at home feels like almost a full sized, compared to say my M&P Shield.

V1 allows me to go DA/SA or cocked and locked 1911 style although I never really keep it that way since not my HD gun and just use DA/SA at the range.
If I ever were able to CCW I'd go straight to LGS and buy 3 of them!

I hear people complain about the triggers but maybe cause I bought mine extremely used it had smoothed out a bit , but in SA the trigger on mine is extremely smooth and crisp break. Great 9mm IMHO.

If I had to get out and be stuck w only one handgun it would be my HKUSP9c, gives feeling of utter reliability and smallish package but when shooting feels like regular size 9mm to me.

[offrdmania]

That's not quite accurate. You can/could order in any of variants, most were shipped as either V1 or V3, but the conversion parts are available and easy to change. H&K was and still is kind of a pain in the butt when it comes to purchasing parts, Brownell's has the plate's for under $10.

I was talking about in its as sold form. You can easily change the parts if you know what you are looking for and what part numbers you need

[tbc]

OP, if it is too confusing just get the LEM variant.


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[TWN495]

V1 is the only one on the roster if I remember right. I had a USP40c, and I swapped out the trigger for the LEM version. But I also could have swapped the control lever to the other side, made it ambi, put a safety on the LEM trigger....all kinds of options. Too bad I couldn't just have bought it that way in the first place.