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  • #46
    roostersgt
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1921

    It's not that bog of a deal in states like Wyoming and Washington, where they have "open carry". Hardly anyone practices it. Can't say about the concealed carry, because, well, they're concealed.

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    • #47
      AFTII
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 1617

      Originally posted by Click Boom
      "CC is for someone who wants to be shot by the much faster on the draw OC'er."
      Depends on your training. The element of surprise can be a pretty good field leveler.

      Last edited by AFTII; 11-03-2015, 9:09 PM.

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      • #48
        EspoMan
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 1618

        .454 Casull.
        Living in the free State of Nevada

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        • #49
          Click Boom
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2013
          • 6955

          Originally posted by AFTII
          Depends on your training. The element of surprise can be a pretty good field leveler.

          My gunslinger fantasies do not involve drawing down on Larry Vickers

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          • #50
            Bobby Ricigliano
            Mit Gott und Mauser
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 17439

            I think "fantasy" is a rather poor choice of words. People who fantasize about some sort of extravagant open carry rig have seen too many movies and are likely more concerned with being seen and noticed as an armed tough guy than they are in having a meaningful self defense solution.

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            • #51
              Ronin2
              Banned
              • Jan 2011
              • 5563

              Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
              I think "fantasy" is a rather poor choice of words. People who fantasize about some sort of extravagant open carry rig have seen too many movies and are likely more concerned with being seen and noticed as an armed tough guy than they are in having a meaningful self defense solution.
              ^^^^^ This too!

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              • #52
                GlockN'Roll
                Veteran Member
                • May 2015
                • 3766

                Originally posted by cockedandglocked

                I agree with those who say they'd carry concealed (if legal) even if OC was legal.

                It defeats the purpose of being a regular citizen with a weapon if you take away the element of surprise.

                LEO really only carry openly for 3 reasons:

                1) Easier access for the relatively high likelihood that they will need to deploy their weapon.

                2) Their uniform already ruined their element of surprise. And

                3) It makes them look more intimidating. None of those things apply to most of us.

                That said,

                if I were to wear a pistol openly on a regular basis,

                it suddenly becomes a fashion item in addition to being a tool,

                just like your watch is a timepiece and your belt buckle keeps your pants up.

                So just like other fashion accessories,

                I'd need to own lots of them to make sure I have one for each occasion

                Cargo pants/shorts and a t-shirt: Glock.

                Jeans/khakis and a collared shirt: Beretta Inox

                Suit/Tux: A really nice 1911 or revolver,

                or maybe a Walther PPK with a medium dry martini, lemon peel.

                Shaken, not stirred.
                Well said Sir CockedandGlocked,

                Make mine a Cask strength Bourbon, if you please ...
                Real Californian...

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                • #53
                  target_shot
                  Member
                  • Jul 2015
                  • 444

                  Akimbo gold 6" chiappa rhinos
                  NRA Life Member
                  Glock Armorer
                  Colt Armorer
                  FFL 03 + COE

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                  • #54
                    Fern
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 1203

                    I would carry a shorty AK pistol with a drum mag.

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                    • #55
                      coachrv
                      Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 103

                      Open - G17, concealed- G26

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                      • #56
                        meno377
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                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 4911

                        Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                        I agree with those who say they'd carry concealed (if legal) even if OC was legal. It defeats the purpose of being a regular citizen with a weapon if you take away the element of surprise. LEO really only carry openly for 3 reasons: 1) Easier access for the relatively high likelihood that they will need to deploy their weapon. 2) Their uniform already ruined their element of surprise. And 3) It makes them look more intimidating. None of those things apply to most of us.

                        That said, if I were to wear a pistol openly on a regular basis, it suddenly becomes a fashion item in addition to being a tool, just like your watch is a timepiece and your belt buckle keeps your pants up. So just like other fashion accessories, I'd need to own lots of them to make sure I have one for each occasion

                        Cargo pants/shorts and a t-shirt: Glock.

                        Jeans/khakis and a collared shirt: Beretta Inox

                        Suit/Tux: A really nice 1911 or revolver, or maybe a Walther PPK with a medium dry martini, lemon peel. Shaken, not stirred.
                        I agree with everything except the last part in bold. The one thing that separates a watch, pants, wallet, ring etc, is the handgun serves basically one purpose: To save your life. It's more important to me to know the handgun I carry, i can have complete trust, and training with that particular one. That is the one exception to fashion IMO.

                        So I would carry a Glock 17 in every situation. Open carry or CC.
                        Last edited by meno377; 11-03-2015, 10:13 PM.
                        Originally posted by Fjold
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                        • #57
                          AFTII
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 1617

                          Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                          I think "fantasy" is a rather poor choice of words. People who fantasize about some sort of extravagant open carry rig have seen too many movies and are likely more concerned with being seen and noticed as an armed tough guy than they are in having a meaningful self defense solution.
                          I have to agree. I saw some fat dorks in Vegas open carrying. Weird scene. I've also seen the "armed tough guy" types in AZ and CO. We asked the CO guys why they were packing, and they answered "to protect our women." Somehow I managed to keep my smart assed mouth shut and not ask, "from what? Grizzly bear attacks?"

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                          • #58
                            CandG
                            Spent $299 for this text!
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 16970

                            Originally posted by meno377
                            I agree with everything except the last part in bold. The one thing that separates a watch, pants, wallet, ring etc, is the handgun serves basically one purpose: To save your life. It's more important to me to know the handgun I carry, I can have complete trust, and training with that particular one. That is the one exception to fashion IMO.

                            So I would carry a Glock 17 in every situation. Open carry or CC.
                            I do agree, but many of us have lots of pistols we trust our lives with equally
                            Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                            • #59
                              meno377
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                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 4911

                              Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                              I do agree, but many of us have lots of pistols we trust our lives with equally
                              True, but is it important to you to have that muscle memory to the point where your handgun is more like an extension of you? I believe that it's more difficult training with multiple handguns including holstering, whether to thumb the safety etc.

                              That being said I have a hard time for the same reason as I have different platforms and I like them all.

                              I posted earlier about 2 weeks ago about muscle memory in a thread and asked if others train with only one handgun platform and why. Here

                              And again I am fighting the same question I asked in that thread.
                              Last edited by meno377; 11-04-2015, 9:39 AM.
                              Originally posted by Fjold
                              I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
                              Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
                              -Milton Friedman


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                              • #60
                                CandG
                                Spent $299 for this text!
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 16970

                                Originally posted by AFTII
                                I have to agree. I saw some fat dorks in Vegas open carrying. Weird scene. I've also seen the "armed tough guy" types in AZ and CO. We asked the CO guys why they were packing, and they answered "to protect our women." Somehow I managed to keep my smart assed mouth shut and not ask, "from what? Grizzly bear attacks?"




                                Oh dang I almost thought that last guy was Mark Walberg as Marcus Luttrell, the resemblance is uncanny.







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                                Last edited by CandG; 11-03-2015, 10:29 PM.
                                Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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