G22 Slide holds open after 3.5 trigger work

[Red9]

Per title,
my g22 is a SSE.... Fires but the slide holds open after every shot. I installed the NDZ trigger disconnect and spring kit.
Any ideas?
Thanks
dino

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[SkyHawk]

My first instinct is you have the side lock installed incorrectly. I have seen this happen to people on the range several times.

If you remove your slide, and flick your slide lock up it should snap back down immediately and with some force. If you remove the slide and shake the frame and the slide lock bounces, or you flick it up and it doesn't snap back down into place forcefully - you do not have it installed properly. The slide lock spring should be captured UNDER the small pin that holds in the locking block.

The proper installation technique is to install the locking block pin FIRST, then slide the slide lock UNDER the locking block pin, then install the trigger pin which also retains the slide lock. If you try and install the locking block pin AFTER the slide release is installed, there is a great chance you will not capture the slide lock spring properly and may even bugger it.

In any case, I would remove the slide lock and then reinstall it per the above procedure. Also inspect your slide lock and spring, compare it to some stock photos and be sure your spring is not tweaked now.

In this pic, pin labeled 3 is the locking block pin (it goes in BEFORE the slide lock) and 2 is the trigger pin.

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As noted above, we learned in the Glock armorer course, the #3 pin (locking block pin) is "first pin out and first pin in". The spring on the slide lock must be on top of the first pin, with the spring pushing down against the pin.

[Red9]

My first instinct is you have the side lock installed incorrectly. I have seen this happen to people on the range several times.

If you remove your slide, and flick your slide lock up it should snap back down immediately and with some force. If you remove the slide and shake the frame and the slide lock bounces, or you flick it up and it doesn't snap back down into place forcefully - you do not have it installed properly. The slide lock spring should be captured UNDER the small pin that holds in the locking block.

The proper installation technique is to install the locking block pin FIRST, then slide the slide lock UNDER the locking block pin, then install the trigger pin which also retains the slide lock. If you try and install the locking block pin AFTER the slide release is installed, there is a great chance you will not capture the slide lock spring properly and may even bugger it.

In any case, I would remove the slide lock and then reinstall it per the above procedure. Also inspect your slide lock and spring, compare it to some stock photos and be sure your spring is not tweaked now.

In this pic, pin labeled 3 is the locking block pin (it goes in BEFORE the slide lock) and 2 is the trigger pin.

Yes, correct when i move the slide lock up, the spring sends it back down to the frame.

So...I guess im putting the stock trigger bar back in.. ??? Sigh. See if that helps? Then the springs. Darn i hate the stock trigger. The 3.5 is really nice.
dino

[SkyHawk]

Yes, correct when i move the slide lock up, the spring sends it back down to the frame.

So...I guess im putting the stock trigger bar back in.. ??? Sigh. See if that helps? Then the springs. Darn i hate the stock trigger. The 3.5 is really nice.
dino

When you shot it and the slide locks back, did you look and see if the slide lock was engaged? That would tell you right away if it was the slide lock or something else. I'm not sure what 'something else' would be though. When you do the slide lock test, flick it up repeatedly and be sure it snaps down with some serious force every time - not just half arse goes back into place.

I don't see how the trigger bar would do it but if it did, it would seem like that could be replicated on the workbench. The only thing I have ever seen do this dynamically when firing and could not be replicated easily on the workbench - is the improper install of the slide lock. It is the only thing that can bounce around under recoil and it will if the spring tension is not enough. And it is the only thing that is designed to hold the slide locked back fully to the rear

If it wasn't going into battery fully then I'd be looking at disconnector or trigger bar, but slide locking to the rear I'd be looking hard at the slide lock.

Whatever you find please let us know, it will help the next guy. Thanks!

[Red9]

When you shot it and the slide locks back, did you look and see if the slide lock was engaged? That would tell you right away if it was the slide lock or something else. I'm not sure what 'something else' would be though. When you do the slide lock test, flick it up repeatedly and be sure it snaps down with some serious force - not just half arse goes back into place.

ya its kinda half arsed. Should it really "Snap" back? Nevermind, upon close observation i notice the slide release does not snap completely back tight to the frame.
Thanks!!!!
i f'd up and now i will go fix it. Thanks again! Skyhawk!!!

[Red9]

When you shot it and the slide locks back, did you look and see if the slide lock was engaged? That would tell you right away if it was the slide lock or something else. I'm not sure what 'something else' would be though. When you do the slide lock test, flick it up repeatedly and be sure it snaps down with some serious force every time - not just half arse goes back into place.

I don't see how the trigger bar would do it but if it did, it would seem like that could be replicated on the workbench. The only thing I have ever seen do this dynamically when firing and could not be replicated easily on the workbench - is the improper install of the slide lock. It is the only thing that can bounce around under recoil and it will if the spring tension is not enough. And it is the only thing that is designed to hold the slide locked back fully to the rear

If it wasn't going into battery fully then I'd be looking at disconnector or trigger bar, but slide locking to the rear I'd be looking hard at the slide lock.

Whatever you find please let us know, it will help the next guy. Thanks!

SWEET Thanks again skyhawk!! two minutes and im done!! woohoo!!!!

[Oceanbob]

Skyhawk nailed it. Good man....

[sffred]

Skyhawk nailed it. Good man....

^^^ what they said.

[jazman]

Skyhawk nailed it. Good man....

Plus 1, good job.

[Red9]

Shot the g22 today. OOOOO boy did she run great!

Thank you Skyhawk once again. Woohoo!

[vanillagurilla]

I was going to say that a trigger bar and connector have nothing to do with the slide lock lol

[Arnelcheeze]

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