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  • Ant45
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 970

    Kinda sorta general question about replacing hammers

    If you replace a hammer on a semi and go with a rounded one (1911, BHP for example) do you have to also replace any of the springs as well? I'm guessing if the replacement hammer is lighter than the one in the pistol it might need additional tweaking.
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    P5Ret
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2010
    • 6361

    I never have had to, on either a semi or a revolver. The weight difference is usually very small, and has not affected performance on the 1911's I changed out or the revolver's that I put factory bobbed hammer's on.

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    • #3
      ojisan
      Agent 86
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2008
      • 11755

      Steel hammer swaps do not need spring changes.

      A titanium hammer could possibly need a stronger hammer spring if you were using reduced power springs already.

      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
      I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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      • #4
        Ant45
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 970

        Thanks for the responses.

        Been thinking of putting a rounded hammer on my BHP. It was tuned and has the wide trigger from work I had done to it from 25 years ago and is silky smooth but for some reason I'm getting the urge for a rounded hammer. No other reason than it looks cool. I know I am not alone here with these urges

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        • #5
          Snoopy47
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 3846

          Remember that the hammer on the likes of a BHP and 1911 have a fitting and engagements with the sear.

          Your trigger is going to be changed dramatically, and I highly doubt for the better.

          I would suggest buying an entire fire control group as a kit if you can.

          like below:

          Explore handgun parts (1,415) at Brownells, including slides, barrels, and triggers to repair, upgrade, or customize your handgun for improved performance.
          Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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          • #6
            Ant45
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 970

            Hmm, I like the feel and pull as it is and wouldn't want to lose that.

            Even with the kit do you think I would be sacrificing anything?

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            • #7
              Mossy Man
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2011
              • 7641

              Serious question: what kind of gun and why do you want a rounded hammer?
              Unless its a collector, have you considered bobbing it instead?

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              • #8
                Ant45
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 970

                Originally posted by Mossy Man
                Serious question: what kind of gun and why do you want a rounded hammer?
                Unless its a collector, have you considered bobbing it instead?
                Browning Hi Power and I just like the looks of a rounded hammer like in the pic.
                Occasionally I get these bugs up my rear to mod something so this is my latest.

                It's not a collector, I've had it though for roughly 25 years and it's a great shooter so maybe messing with it might not a good idea.

                Now about bobbing the hammer that would be just having part of it cut off? (I had to ask)



                Last edited by Ant45; 09-26-2015, 8:26 PM.

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                • #9
                  Mossy Man
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 7641

                  I missed your earlierpost.

                  Lots of guys with 1911sbob thier hammers if they experience hammer bite but dont want to change internals.

                  And yes bobbing is just cutting and reshaping. Google 1911 bobbed hammer

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                  • #10
                    Ant45
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 970

                    Originally posted by Mossy Man
                    I missed your earlierpost.

                    Lots of guys with 1911sbob thier hammers if they experience hammer bite but dont want to change internals.

                    And yes bobbing is just cutting and reshaping. Google 1911 bobbed hammer
                    Been doing that since your post, thanks for the idea.

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                    • #11
                      dfletcher
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14787

                      Originally posted by Ant45
                      Browning Hi Power and I just like the looks of a rounded hammer like in the pic.
                      Occasionally I get these bugs up my rear to mod something so this is my latest.

                      It's not a collector, I've had it though for roughly 25 years and it's a great shooter so maybe messing with it might not a good idea.

                      Now about bobbing the hammer that would be just having part of it cut off? (I had to ask)



                      Switching hammers shouldn't require a change of mainsprings. I agree the rounded hammer looks better.

                      A few years back I picked up a 1970s made BHP in excellent condition, it was only $495.00, came with the original zipped bag and paperwork. And the hammer followed the slide because someone fiddled with the hammer. I've done lots of 1911s and figured "how bad could it be ....?" It wasn't that bad, but it was more work than any 1911.

                      Chances are the sear notch in the hammer will not be in exactly the same spot nor exactly mate with the existing sear exactly as did the previous hammer. That will cause the sear to be in a slightly different position relative to the thumb safety. The stud on the thumb safety rests up against a stud on the inside (rearward) lower left edge of the sear. Like the 1911, if it's not fitted you'll get a little travel on safe when you press the trigger, maybe enough for the hammer to drop. Unlike 1911 thumb safeties, of which there's alot to choose from and they have plenty of "meat" to remove and fit, the few BHP safeties I've seen don't have much. The one by C & S came up way short. After trying a few sears I had a spot of weld dropped on to the stud on the thumb safety and fitted it.

                      It was a bit of a learning experience and maybe I just had lousy luck. The C & S slide is said by others to have plenty of metal on it for fitting, maybe the hammer you get will work just fine. Worst thing that happens is it doesn't fit, you go back to the old hammer & learned how to take the gun apart.

                      As an aside, disassembly and reassembly (especially reassembly) is kind of a pain. The hammer and sear have to be held under tension, hammer to the rear, and the retaining pin slid in. That's three hands. Trick I learned is to loop a wire over the hammer spur, hold it at full cock by hooking the other end into the open magwell.
                      Last edited by dfletcher; 09-26-2015, 9:49 PM.
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                      • #12
                        bohoki
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 20812

                        certain hammers may need a different grip safety on the 1911

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                        • #13
                          Ant45
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 970

                          Originally posted by dfletcher
                          Switching hammers shouldn't require a change of mainsprings. I agree the rounded hammer looks better.

                          A few years back I picked up a 1970s made BHP in excellent condition, it was only $495.00, came with the original zipped bag and paperwork. And the hammer followed the slide because someone fiddled with the hammer. I've done lots of 1911s and figured "how bad could it be ....?" It wasn't that bad, but it was more work than any 1911.

                          Chances are the sear notch in the hammer will not be in exactly the same spot nor exactly mate with the existing sear exactly as did the previous hammer. That will cause the sear to be in a slightly different position relative to the thumb safety. The stud on the thumb safety rests up against a stud on the inside (rearward) lower left edge of the sear. Like the 1911, if it's not fitted you'll get a little travel on safe when you press the trigger, maybe enough for the hammer to drop. Unlike 1911 thumb safeties, of which there's alot to choose from and they have plenty of "meat" to remove and fit, the few BHP safeties I've seen don't have much. The one by C & S came up way short. After trying a few sears I had a spot of weld dropped on to the stud on the thumb safety and fitted it.

                          It was a bit of a learning experience and maybe I just had lousy luck. The C & S slide is said by others to have plenty of metal on it for fitting, maybe the hammer you get will work just fine. Worst thing that happens is it doesn't fit, you go back to the old hammer & learned how to take the gun apart.

                          As an aside, disassembly and reassembly (especially reassembly) is kind of a pain. The hammer and sear have to be held under tension, hammer to the rear, and the retaining pin slid in. That's three hands. Trick I learned is to loop a wire over the hammer spur, hold it at full cock by hooking the other end into the open magwell.
                          Thanks!

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